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Day 7 - Odd weight loss...

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06 Mar 2011 15:16 #6048 by hewhodareswins
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Hi guys,

This is my first real water fast and so far it's been going really well. Over the last few days I was losing roughly 1KG per day which seems to be inline with what other people have reported. I weigh myself every morning at the same time to ensure consistent results and don't weigh in between.

As a software developer, I have a pretty sedentary lifestyle - work involves sitting on my backside. On these days I lost 1KG. However yesterday I was moreactive, out pushing the pram, meeting friends for dinner - it smelled sooo good! - and went to bed two hours later than usual.

I weighed myself this morning and I've only lost 0.4KG. I'm pretty confused as to how this could have happened. If a day of sitting down loses 1KG, how can a really active day only lose 0.4KG? I thought maybe I was using muscle for energy but again, the figures don't add up...

Can anyone explain this?

Thanks!

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06 Mar 2011 19:32 - 06 Mar 2011 19:33 #6053 by TheFastDoctor
TheFastDoctor replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
Very welcome to the forums with your first post, hewhodares.. !

Bear in mind that just the water in the body can fluctuate more than 2 kilograms: The bladder alone can carry the better part of a liter of urine, representing a kilogram of weight. Thust the weight change from day to day is not adeqaute to be meaningful.. it's better to keep calculating the average weight loss from the start of the fast.

During an active fast you can burn fat (35 kilojoules per gram) and build muscle (17 kilojoules per gram) if you are active. Thus body compositon measurements are better reflections of changes than what weight is. On an active day you can burn more fat, make more muscle and even produce metabolic water in adequate amounts to cause weight gain..

André

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06 Mar 2011 19:50 #6054 by hewhodareswins
hewhodareswins replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
Hi Andre!

Thanks for taking the time to reply! It's good to be among like minded people :)

On that particular day, body fat dropped by 0.1%, total body water went up by 1% and muscle stayed the same at 19%. I definitely take your point about it being unreliable to measure daily, I just thought it was odd that I was seeing a huge difference each day, but the one day I do a fair bit of exercise, only a small bit is lost :)

The other weird thing I've found is that my pulse rate (I take it in the morning with my weight) is pretty high. Today it was 103. However my blood pressure was 102 /73. I'm wondering if it's because my heart has to beat faster due to the drop in blood pressure.

Either way I still feel fine.... just curious and want to make sure everything is still safe...

Thanks again!!

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07 Mar 2011 07:19 #6067 by hewhodareswins
hewhodareswins replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
Hi guys,

Okay, found the solution to the high pulse rate - I wasn't drinking enough water. Within five minutes of downing a couple of mugs, my pulse rate drop down to around 82 rather than 100+.

Hope this helps someone :)

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07 Mar 2011 07:42 #6068 by TheFastDoctor
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Indeed dear he-who-dares, your narrow pulse rate would indicate an intravascular dehydration.. a little odd in view of your total body re-hydraton as indicated by the gaining of weight and water.

But then the human physique is a rather wondrous machine, difficult to fully understand.

André

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07 Mar 2011 08:00 #6071 by hewhodareswins
hewhodareswins replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
From the weigh in this morning, I have only lost 0.1KG. I'm wondering if over the weekend I wasn't drinking enough water (at work I basically sit next to a water machine) and this caused retention of fluids or something?

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07 Mar 2011 08:32 #6072 by TheFastDoctor
TheFastDoctor replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
Whatever water you drink enters the "pool" of water in your body. Once inside, there's no distinction between water molecules so no, water "retention" has other mechanisms, mostly independent of how much you drink. Somethimes you retain it becasue there's some toxins that cannot be eliminated; next best is to dilute them. Thus several cycles of detox activities are more likely to allow your body to let go of any excess fluid.

André

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03 Apr 2012 17:28 #10660 by wsdrradiogirl
wsdrradiogirl replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
Interesting discussion! This is day 8 of 14 for my water fast...and I also have been weighing myself every morning. I have been losing about 3 pounds per day. This morning, I got up and saw I had lost half a pound...I've been doing everything the same, including water intake. This is exactly what happens when I eat right and exercise daily...plateaus. I was told to eat more and exercise less, as my RMR is 2040, according to recent testing. But...when I did that, I gained weight. So, I decided to fast (which I do annually) for 14 days. Should I expect to lose more weight? If not, should I end the fast? This is so frustrating.

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03 Apr 2012 17:43 #10661 by bolio1981
bolio1981 replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
radiogirl, wow you are to be commended don't give up the fast, try and use one of those cloth tape measures and measure your waist, that may be a better tell of your body changes.

I have been trying to incorporate regular fasting into my life for 10 years, early on I had much more ability to fast. But now the first days are the hardest and depressing. Currently I am on Day 4 juice fast, depression gone, did have a two pieces of whole wheat bread last night, so that may be considered fast breaking, but not for me, because I will do the best I can, and occasionally during my fasts, I fall off the path, but tiny little snacks every other day make life bearable!!

Keeping it real, happiness is staying thin, staying thin is hard, fasting helps!!! Love Backpacking, ski, yoga, and kung fu!!!

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03 Apr 2012 18:16 #10662 by wsdrradiogirl
wsdrradiogirl replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
Thanks for the nice feedback, Bolio...Can you tell I'm losing it? lol

It wouldn't be so bad, except for the fact that I've been killing myself in the gym and not eating anything I'd like to eat (CHIPS!!! CANDY!!! lol) for 2 years...yes, 2 years and my weight hasn't changed, except for a 10-15 lb fluctuation. And, here I'm returning to 'old faithful' fasting...and what happens, a plateau! lol

The fast itself is good, esp. after the first 4 days! lol I feel pretty good, but with less energy than usual. I just think if I'm not losing weight, why bother?

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03 Apr 2012 21:49 #10664 by TheFastDoctor
TheFastDoctor replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
Please never pay too much attention to the pull of gravity on the molecules in your body. I have actually seen people gain weight on a dry fast. But they lose FAT. If you convert fat to water or to muscle, it weighs more than the fat you converted.

And bear in mind a full bladder can contain half a kilogram. (I don't quite understand the Imperial measures, my country is no longer a British colony). There can also be a kilogram of so residue in the gut. And you could have a few liters of water in the tissues.

Thus measurements like circumference and skin folds are a much better reflection of what's going on in your body.

Always compare your new weight with the start weight rather than the previous day's. It makes a lot more sense.

André

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04 Apr 2012 05:26 #10667 by Lisafast
Lisafast replied the topic: Re: Day 7 - Odd weight loss...
Sometimes weight loss is bizarre while fasting. I try not to get too frustrated about it. Just keep in mind every day that you fast, you get a little bit closer to your goal. While you may be thinking that weight loss is the most important part of the fast, your body may be focusing it's energies on dissolving some cysts or growths inside your body or healing some disease state that you don't even know you have. Just realize that your body has infinite wisdom and knows what it is doing. Above all, don't give up!
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