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02 May 2008 04:02 #715 by TheFastDoctor
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~Type I diabetes Mellitus by definition is the result of the destructionn of the Beta-cells in the Islets of the pancreas. These cells \"measure\" blood sugar and secrete Insulin accordingly. Insulin then \"drives\" the \"insulin receptors\" on our other cells.. these are little \"pumps\" that move blood sugar from the surroundings into the cells. The word Insulin is derived from Islets.. small \"islands\" of Beta-cells scattered among the pancreas tissues.

Thus, according to the strict definition of Type I DM, it is incurable. We cannot produce new Beta cells. At least this has never been demonstrated.

However, I have witnessed on the odd occasion Type I DM reversing during a longish fast. This was however almost exclusively very shortly after the diagnosis. The islet cells were therefore not totally dead yet, only damaged and therefore unable to produce insulin.

During a fast we do not need insulin, as most of the body runs on Ketones, and the bit of sugar that is formed from fat, can be consumed by the heart and the brain, the two organs capable of ingesting blood sugar without the aid of insulin.

Theoretically during this \"holiday\" for the Beta-cells, they may repair themselves before they die.. but then we have to address the original \"cause\" of their being damaged.

Thus:
1. I try to prolong this \"holiday\" by administering Insulin at full replacement dosages for a few days, even weeks, after the patient has started eating.
2. I always suggest a purely vegan diet afterwards. This is because animal products might contain proteins similar to those on the beta cells, which could have triggered the immune response originally responsible for the damage.

A bigger topic, I know, but we should keep Forum posts short.

André

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29 Jan 2009 01:16 #2255 by vmatsievski
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Hi, Doctor. My name is Val. I am originally from Russia. I think I sew you on a picture in Saint Petersburg. I have a question. I am very sick now. I have a pituitary tumor, which secrete somatotropin I think. I developed hypothyroid, and lew parathyroid. My WBC are lew. My testosteron is very lew, my IGF1 is is very high. Endocrinologist think it is acromegally. However, I don't look like that yet. I am insulin resistant and also developed a lots of food (practically on everything) and other alergy/sensitivity, which gave me asthma.I also have a lots of gastric problems (ulser, colon) I think it is all from a pituitary tumor which is medium sise. I did a water fast for 23 days, after it I ate for a month, but a half hour after eating I fall a sleep, I also had palpitations and hot flashes, and I had extreame fatique. At night I was sweating a lot. My joints were hearting a lot as well. Before the fast my whole body was hearting, especially after eating. Now I am on water fast 25th day. Will try go till 40 or more. I feel beter myself then when I ate. Have you heard anything about pituitary tumor curing from fast, and why do I have those simptoms. Is it due to sugar (however my sugar drops to 80 two hours after eating)or to alergy. It is all started 9 month ago when I took a B blocker for my angina. I took it for a week and collapsed. Then I did colon cleansing and took suplements. But I was getting worse and worse. I am waiting for your reply.
P.S. I know that growth hormone is getting high during a fast together with cortizol. Mine was already high before the fast. Is it okey? My prostate was enlarged before the fast, now it seems it enlarged even a little bit more.

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29 Jan 2009 05:17 #2257 by TheFastDoctor
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Hi Vmatsievski.. Yes I have fond memories of StPetersburg and the 9th Slavic-Baltic forum on Nutrition, where we focused on fasting.

The outcome of our discussions was that we have not yet found any condidtion that does not improve on fasting. So yes, there is a chance that it could help you.

But of course there are limitations. When you have an adenoma of the pituitary (hypophysis) it can come from any of its various cells, or a combination, and the degree of abnormality can vary from insignificant to gross. So unfortunately, my friend, there is no universal guarantee to how adequate this treatment will be on its own.

Whilst fasting can and will definitely help, you should not do this INSTEAD of other treatments. If you over-produce growth hormone, you will become insulin resistant and in time you will develop acromegaly. Once the bones have enlarged (like the jaw and hands) we cannot reverse it. So please treat your condition rather aggressively with both orthodox and natural treatmens, as time is of the essence here.

Do remember that fasting is only the first part of detox. Once you mobilized the toxins, you have to eliminate them. See the FAQ section to learn about the 5-step elimination process.

Perhaps profesor Elena Latvepa of Lenmedgastro in StPetersburg will be willing and able to help you. I do not want to publish her e-mail so I will send it to you on a private message.

But please let us keep communicating. I would really like to help.

André

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30 Jan 2009 02:47 #2270 by vmatsievski
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Thank you very much for your imput. I am pretty much agree wit you about an integrative approch. However, here in America my tumor treated with a sergical approch first. I would like to do so,but because I am very sick the sergant doesnot want to operate. Plus because of mine different alergies I don't know how my body will react to different medicine, even pain killers asociated with sergery, unless I go on steroids, I think. However doctors did't suggest steroids yet. They don't believe that I have so many alergies. Well I will try to survive. Thank you for Lena's email I will ask her if she can help.

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30 Jan 2009 05:36 #2271 by TheFastDoctor
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If there is any doubt about allergies, we simply measure the serum levels of Immunoglobulin E (IgE) and if this is high, then one can screen for inhalants and foods and if any of these are high, check for specific allergies within each group. This is all done on blood. Skin prick tests are of course another way of determining allergies. One problem: If you have not been exposed for a long time to what you are allergic for, the test can be negative.

Let's hope the fast will help you get healthy enough to proceed with other treatment thereafter.

André

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31 Jan 2009 01:02 #2282 by vmatsievski
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Thank you. I think I will do it. I think I will need to go to alergi specialist. However they don't do food alergi tests. I will need to go to alternaive specialist who can order ELISA test. I will be costli $2000 US. I agree, it will not show everything because I simply didn't eat diferent foods for a while, especially gluten. May be I will try alternative testing with computer. They check by biomeridian (EMAS)different energy responce on different alergies. I don't know if you believe those or not. Today mine 26 day of water fast. I feel okey, only my heart is in pain. I also talked with Valeriy Shumilov from Minsk. He was one of speakers in Saint Petersburg talking about radiation. His teacher was Voitovich, one of first practitioners of fast in USSR. My mother knows them. She is breathing practitioner of K. Buteyko method. I knew about fast and vegan lifestile for a long time. Unfortunally didn't follow it much. I was a vegetarian for 4 years. Then I ate averything and drank perhaps to much. However I was taking herbal supplements when I get sick. Now I gues I will need to go on sintroid. Well thnk you again Val

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31 Jan 2009 05:41 #2284 by TheFastDoctor
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These prices sound like daylight robbery! Here in South Africa we do a full profile at about US$ 100-200.

Anyway, sorry but I do not believe these "energies" systems. There is no scientific rationale. Much better would be to do your own pulse rate test:

1. Avoid the food you wish to test for about 3 weeks.

2. Then fast 1 day.

3. Break the fast with a specific volume (weight) of the food you wish to test. Subtract the moisture content when you weigh the food.

4. Take your resting pulse rate just before eating this food.

5. Don't exercise, then take your pulse rate hanl an hour after eating this food.

6. Note the percentage pulse rate increase.

7. Repeat this for other foods, starting with food groups eg. dairy or gluten.

8. Those foods or groups which has a bigger increase in pulse rate usually represent what you are allergic to.

9. If you test negative for a group (eg. for whole milk) then you don't need to test the members of that group (cream, butter, etc.)

10. If you test positive for a group, then you could test the individual members of the group.

This may be a long process, but you can overlap the 3-week abstinence period of several foods so that you can test one food every week. This remains the "gold standard" for determining food allergies.

André

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31 Jan 2009 23:46 #2295 by vmatsievski
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Thank you for this information. I was reading about it before. I believe it is Coke who came up with this test. I did it before. Unfortunally everithing I had tested gave me pulse 100 or more. I started to assume that may be it is my insulin resistance gives me such increase. Nevertherless I wil try again after this fast. I think I will brake it soon. It is very difficult for my heart. Today 28 day.:blush: Val

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01 Feb 2009 08:18 #2305 by TheFastDoctor
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28 days is really quite a good length of fasting, Val. But please make sure that before you break this fast, you eliminate all the toxins that was released during the fast. Do a few detox cycles quite intensively and then start with diluted juice as your first meal, I suggest.

You could also arrange for a blood test for allergies: First just have the total IgE measured to see if it is really raised. Remember you may have many sensitivities without necessarily allergies.

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02 Feb 2009 21:15 #2343 by vmatsievski
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15 Feb 2009 12:04 #2620 by vmatsievski
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Hi Andre, it is Val again. I am fasting for 42 days now, I feel alright, however I feel like I want to trow up in evenings,usually afer enema. I soon will brake the water fast. I usually brake it with a carot juce. Do you think it is okey? I have consern about my ulser and my hypothyroid with possible noduls. I was reading that carot is goitorogenic. Also,because I am insulin resistant should I go on insulin? On which day can I start sintroid and testosteron after fast. Or should I take armorthyroid?I am still have consern about my alergi/censetiviti to medication though. Should I try prednizalon to help with it? Thank you. Sorry for misspelling.
P.S. I am not sure if it is acromegaly, but smal bone on a top of my left hand got a little bit enlarged However it also looks like artrisis.

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15 Feb 2009 16:40 #2624 by TheFastDoctor
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Number 1: I think Enemas is really unhealthy and would not advise anyone to take them unless there's an obstruction.

2: Carrot juice is a good way of breaking a fast.. lowish glycaemic indes, good carbohydrate nutrients. Just not too much of course..I am not aware of carrots being goitrogenic. Parsnips, yes, there's some correlation but not clear cut.

3. I do not know "armorthyroid" so cannot give advice. Hormones like thyroid and testosterone, if they are needed, does not have to be stopped during a fast. Prednisolone is an immune modulating steroid, similar to what your body makes anyway.. and it makes more when you fast.

4. Acromegaly will cause permanent SYMMETRICAL enlargement of several bones, including the jaw.. so if you are unsure, have the growth hormone levels measured.

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16 Feb 2009 02:03 #2635 by vmatsievski
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Hi Andre, thank you for your responce. Unfortunally I had to brake the fast due to vomiting. It was brown liquid, with gastric juce and I am afraid may be blood may be not. Because prior to this my stomach was herten. To soften it up I take half carrot juce and half oath broth. If it were a little bit of blood will it cure with diet? I also started ading probiotics. Stomach still herts a little bit. Can I add garlic? So, I think I wiil try Prednisolone. Also How much blood they can drow after such long fast. Will my body recover?

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16 Feb 2009 06:14 #2639 by TheFastDoctor
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Your body has a wonderful ability to recover, vmatsievsky!

I guess you mean cramps if you say your stomach was hurting. And if there's a bit of blood per rectum it might indicated active ulcerative colotis. This is one of the situations in which I do like to flush out the entire intestine.. and for this use a macroglycol preparation such as Klean-Prep. If you are nauseous, sometimes it is the lesser of evils to use a pro-motility drug like Metoclopramide for a day or 2 just to "polarize" the intestine.

Probiotics is a good idea but bear in mind it is only one or two bacteria and your intestine needs about 300 kinds.. so raw food should help the appendix re-colonizing the colon.

Drawing blood is not limited, as we seldom need more than about 20 ml for tests. I have donated blood during/after a fast, and then they take 500 ml!

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17 Feb 2009 00:51 #2673 by vmatsievski
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Hi Andre, Thanks for your reply. My blood was in my vomit, not in the back. Now I don't have much pain since I brake the fast. I drink only carot juce with water. I fasted using Russian classical formula, doing enema every day. I don't know how do you fast without enema? My pulse goes till from 60 to 90 after an hour after carrot. Does it mean I am allergig to carot? Thanks

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17 Feb 2009 02:41 #2675 by Misslinda
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Hi Vimat! Dras-wheets-ya!!! Meen ya za voot Linda... :-)


I hope this is not an imposition and I don't mean to jump into this discussion but I was curious Vimat....

It would not be unusual for you to have develped "allergic" reaction to foods considering you have been experience ulcers. This quite common for those that have prolonged digestive conditions. In fact, we see it more common these days and being linked to many dis-eases and conditions.

Pancreas becomes quite over worked with cooked foods as we notice and I understand that there is some correlation the thyroid and pituitary gland. Tracing backwards, the liver and kidneys have energetic pathways thru those organs...

It sounds like you have been doing water fasting?

Considering that your "condition" and symptoms are at this stage,H

Have you considered fasting on dilluted juices. With prolonged water fasting, there is the time frame where you must rebuild the system whereas with juice fasting, the body can utilize the nutrients provided by the body to rejuvenate and assimilate to use where neccessary?

With the possibiity of de-mineralized water and too harsh water, it can be abrasive to the body. The stomach lining may be more senstive from the agressive approach of water fasting b/c of the state our system is in...

A personal note, I've often suggested slippery elm bark powder in a warm water base to assist the gut lining repair for 10-14 days. Some good live green juices to rebuild the body and neutralized the toxins.

My post is not meant to distract you but to offer a little more advice. I will keep you in fervent prayers and know that you are well thought of....

Das-vee-dan-ya!
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17 Feb 2009 03:38 #2676 by TheFastDoctor
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vmadievski, we NEVER use enemas unless there is an obstruction. They are dangerous and not good for your health.

A little blood in vomit is usually the result of "Mallory Weiss syndrome", a small tear in the antrum of the stomach due to the mechanics of vomiting. This is harmless, particularly if it stops soon again.

Whether you are allergic to carrot would only be determined if you do the same test with a number of other foods and they have lower increases in pulse rate.

I believe water fasting is MUCH easier and softer on the body than juice diets. What, after all, can be more relaxing to the system than having nothing to digest or process? Very restricted diets "fire up" the digestive system due to the hypothalamus' response to taste, it prevents it from taking a proper "holiday" and slows the transition to catabolism. On the mind/psyche it may be less stressful but not on the body.

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17 Feb 2009 04:25 #2682 by Misslinda
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Whether you are allergic to carrot would only be determined if you do the same test with a number of other foods and they have lower increases in pulse rate.

I believe water fasting is MUCH easier and softer on the body than juice diets. What, after all, can be more relaxing to the system than having nothing to digest or process? Very restricted diets "fire up" the digestive system due to the hypothalamus' response to taste, it prevents it from taking a proper "holiday" and slows the transition to catabolism. On the mind/psyche it may be less stressful but not on the body.

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In a relatively healthy person, I would more than agree.

However, I really do believe that if one's health is at a certain point where its own body's reserve and state may be questionable, digestion is always seems to be the first to go. I would advocate that it offers the body assistance of nutrients/minerals in liquid form without the fiberous contents to breakdown and assimilate.

I do believe it will depend on the condition and symptoms just like the rainbow of medications.

Water alone, is another subject we ought to discuss in another thread b/c there seems to be varying opinions and thoughts...
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17 Feb 2009 12:05 #2685 by TheFastDoctor
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I understand where you come from. Just please bear in mind that foods without fiber is particularly hard on the intestine. As the movements of the gut is brought about by peristalsis, it is very difficult to enact if the food's volume is small. And of course fiber is necessary to prevent toxins in the gut from being absorbed. To be totally honest with you, I am scared of a low residue diet so if I do go onto juices, it will be whole fruits just juiced (chewed by a machine instead of the teeth) so that the fiber is there to keep the toxins in the gut.. not allow them to move to the blood.

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18 Feb 2009 21:42 #2712 by vmatsievski
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In Russia some people go on water fast first, then go juices (for a while). They claymed it helped them get red of different kind of tumors.I am now on my my 4th day juicing. Mostly carot, celery, beet, and a little bit of garlic. It is not deluted now. First days they were deluted. My urine PH is 7.5 (very alkolised). It is good, I breath better. However, thereis no peristalsis there yet. May be soon. What to do next though? If I am an insulin resistant. What juce to try. My mother wants me to try a litle bit of apple juce. I am still scared to start drugs at this point, especially syntetic, like levothyroxine. May be I better go on armourthyroid. (It is decicated grandular from pigs)?

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