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Does Fasting Help or Cure Cancer? Any Experience?

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31 Jan 2013 08:42 #15138 by david
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"Bad" nutrition may mimick fasting by under-supplying nutrients. Cancer cells are more susceptible to famine than normal cells.


If "Bad" implies a staple of starchy foods which wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine then what is implied here is that sugar does not feed cancer but an excess of man made or plant based vitamins (minerals?) do.

This hypothesis must be based on clinical trials where a certain number of people on high sugar junk food vs people on daily vitamin supplements have been screened over a long period of time. One can only speculate as to the complexity of gathering data for this research.

I am speculating that the implications would be that the incidence of cancer among low income working class families would be less than middle class families as they have a little more disposable income to buy vitamins.

Thank you Doctor for bringing this to our attention.

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31 Jan 2013 10:03 #15146 by TheFastDoctor
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I get the idea David... indeed a starchy diet WILL feed cancer. Cancer cells survive very well on blood sugar, much less so on ketones. Starch is concentrated blood sugar. But man made simplified extracted vitamins may also selectively feed cancer cells. Do remember that your body has several mechanisms specifically to increase blood sugar even if you don't eat any.. for example, you make blood sugar from any excess protein also.

Unfortunately low income families tend to eat cheap food.. which is often PROCESSED starches. These EMPTY calories may just promote cancer growth.

True indeed that this is rather complex. And our divergent genes does not simplify matters at all..

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31 Jan 2013 14:01 #15152 by TheFastDoctor
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Hi. I just found the following research article that demonstrated the relationship between good nutrition and the stimulus it might have on established cancers:

pen.sagepub.com/content/16/6_suppl/72S.full.pdf


Numerous animal/tumor models clearly demonstrate that oral and parenteral nutrition can significantly stimulate tumor cell growth and metastasis.


Now we have not really tried it in humans but then how ethical would it be to do something to a cancer patient that might actually stimulate the growth of the tumour?

I accumulate some articles regarding fasting, nutrition and cancer on the following google docs page:

docs.google.com/document/d/1hS4Mxwm2FYhP...mLpXcK_FGOXCo6g/edit

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31 Jan 2013 22:55 #15164 by david
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Thank you Doctor will read through them. Some would argue the ethics of carrying out such research on animals too :unsure:

These EMPTY calories may just promote cancer growth.


Sorry I did not get the subtlety of this. Do you mind elaborating a little more please.

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31 Jan 2013 23:37 - 31 Jan 2013 23:38 #15165 by Mystic
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David wrote: Thank you Doctor will read through them. Some would argue the ethics of carrying out such research on animals too :unsure:


That's what I was thinking.


Has anyone read the china study? That shows cancer to be more of a western/wealthy disease. If you tend to eat mostly vegtables and few animal products it is less of a problem. I know diet is a key element, it's just that noone seems to know which diet to follow.

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01 Feb 2013 06:27 #15170 by TheFastDoctor
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Indeed dear Mystic, the China Study shows how disease patterns change with lifestyle.. here in Africa we have an even more dramatic change with the rapid urbanization of the rural population who practically never had osteoporosis, diabetes or cancer until they aquired refrigerators.. enabling them to eat a bit of dead animal every day instead of a lot of dead animal on the odd occasion. The Hans Snijkers Institute at the University of Pretoria did this research.

David, what factories do is split whole foods into their components, often feed the healthiest parts to animals in feedlots and the empty residue to people. "Empty" refers to that the fiber, many vitamins, minerals and of course a host of hitherto unknown micro-nutrients are just not in there any more.

Fasting, taking NO nutrients, is healthy, but taking SOME nutrients "out of context" is really confusing to the human body.

André

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01 Feb 2013 08:37 #15174 by Shant
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The Fast Doctor wrote:
docs.google.com/document/d/1hS4Mxwm2FYhP...mLpXcK_FGOXCo6g/edit

André


Thank you so much.

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01 Feb 2013 08:57 #15176 by david
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Fasting, taking NO nutrients, is healthy, but taking SOME nutrients "out of context" is really confusing to the human body.


The key being 'out of context' an example being bleached flower which is has been heavily modified over years of selective farming that it no longer resembles the original wheat. Then heavily processed by adding a plethora of additives and fast baking methods. In contrast to the raw- sprouted wheat sun baked bread our ancestors used to eat.

debbietookrawforlife.blogspot.co.uk/2008...ke-essene-bread.html

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