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Five Step Elimination Cycle

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14 Jun 2012 14:33 #11097 by Lisafast
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Thanks for posting this. It is always a good reminder. I think this is a good practice whether or not you are fasting and it's very easy to do just before your shower every morning, well incorporating the shower into it.

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15 Jun 2012 12:00 #11111 by SailorMarieBliss
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Thanks for re-posting this. I have a question/clarification. The other day, while doing an elimination cycle, I had done the increase heart rate, skin brushing, but then, as I had been having very sore/achy muscles & joints, I ended up doing a hot bath for the heat portion, & didn't want to get out as it felt do much better! I stayed in the hot tub for at least 25 mins before getting out to do the cold part. Would that invalidate the whole cycle? Is there a time limit for moving from step to step?

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15 Jun 2012 13:40 #11113 by TheFastDoctor
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If you did the first 3 steps, dear Sailor, you have achieved the bulk of what we try.. the last 2 are more of cosmetic importance (preventing varicose veins, etc.) and are not critical. Thus your omitting the cold to go directly to the rest is almost as good.. but do try for example to just jump through an ice cold shower and get back in the bath, you'll be surprised at the difference it makes!

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15 Jun 2012 14:08 #11114 by SailorMarieBliss
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Thank you, I will try that!

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10 Aug 2012 20:25 #11833 by Squazypants
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Hello, Im on my 3rd day of dry fasting I have a broken foot and want to do the 5 steps but dont know how to get my pulse rate up with one leg out any suggestions?

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10 Aug 2012 20:37 #11835 by Shant
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Speed boxing. Isolate your core or rotate, whatever you prefer. then do explosive fast punches up, to the sides. To the front. The faster the better. And if you are able to do that with dumbbells, even better.
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10 Aug 2012 20:38 #11836 by Squazypants
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Sounds Perfect thankyou so much!!

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11 Aug 2012 17:33 #11845 by TheFastDoctor
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Excellent advice Shant, thank you for that. Bear in mind, Squazy, the function of the exercise component is to generate redundant circulation that can be divertredd to your detox organs during massage. So it really does not matter how.. physically swimming is the best but any activity that achieves this goal is good.

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10 Sep 2012 18:58 - 10 Sep 2012 19:01 #12331 by david
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Here is some more information re the Five Step Elimination Cycle taken from another thread:


I have often seen chronic diseases resolve during a fast, sometimes quite dramatically. This includes chronic Lyme's disease. The benefit is further enhanced by hydrotherapy (elimination) cycles, in particular the pyrophase (heat step) as an increased body core temperature also suppress microbial enzymes and make our peroxidases more active. Peroxidases is what your white blood cells use to make hydrogen peroxide, which is what it uses to kill cancer cells and germs.

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12 Sep 2012 17:02 #12364 by Shant
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The only problem with rubbing the skin when sweated is that it can irritate the skin if not done gently.

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12 Sep 2012 19:26 #12368 by TheFastDoctor
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Ideally you should massage the deep tissues and not just rub the skin.. plus, you should do this before the sweat phase.. if you did sweat during the exercise phase it would be wise to dry it (with say a towel) before the massage phase.

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12 Sep 2012 20:04 #12374 by Shant
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Thanks. The issue is that the skin that was sweated and dried with a towel holds moisture anyway.

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12 Sep 2012 20:44 #12381 by TheFastDoctor
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Sure Shant. The skin always holds moisture unless you are mummified. But if you dry the visible, external moisture your skin should be more resilient to the abrasion of massage. Personally I prefer underwater (water jet) massage.. during which the entire skin is immersed in water and totally wet.

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12 Sep 2012 20:57 #12383 by Shant
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:).. I'm saying that if elimination cycle is done after an intensive exercise, the skin is warm, pores open and some sweat breaks even if the visible sweat has already been removed with a towel. The recommendation is to massage the skin when HR is super high. My HR gets super high only if I perform a super high intensity cardio for at least 10 mins.. and I break in some sweat.
Guess I either won't follow the guidelines regarding recommended HR or I'll just get over it. Jet massage would be great but..

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12 Sep 2012 21:01 #12385 by TheFastDoctor
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Not super high, dear Shant, just increased so that there's some excess available to be diverted to the skin.

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13 Sep 2012 15:11 #12399 by Shant
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That's great news. I've started to believe that performing these elimination cycles is very helpful so recently I've been doing them religiously at least once a day :).
Anyway, today I did a press massage when I was dressed. It did the trick. And a few sets of burpees actually do increase my HR above at least 150.

Thank you for "inventing" these 5 steps.

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20 Sep 2012 15:24 #12600 by superhuman
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Anyone having good advice on how to massage yourself during this cycles? i use skin brush but that is mostly massasing the skin, not reaching the tissues

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20 Sep 2012 16:12 #12602 by Shant
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Lol. I knew you'd ask some day...

I think I once talked with Andre about manual lymph dranaige.. check out these instructions:

messageboards.makemeheal.com/tummy-tuck/...ructions-t83949.html

I'm lazy to follow this so I, too, do dry skin brushing and then proceed to some super-fast press massage with fingers (especially legs).

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20 Sep 2012 22:19 #12613 by TheFastDoctor
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Dear Super, brushing the skin is actually quite adequate as part of the cycle. The idea is to get the circulation into the skin, where the sweat glands are.

Some people use vibrating massage machines on themselves also. And Kneipp employs water jets.. at roughly body temperature a high powered focused shower can do the trick.

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23 Oct 2012 00:37 #13279 by Alisha
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I have been reading as much as I can on the forums and I haven't finished "Health Won" yet....so, bare with me. There is a lot of information to get through.

I think, I read that it is suggested to do the 5-Step two times per day when fasting? Are there any added benefits to doing it, say...an hour or two into your fast? Are there optimal times to do it? Like 12hrs, 24hrs, or 36hrs?

Thanks in advance?

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