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10 Apr 2014 09:17 - 10 Apr 2014 10:19 #21301 by Limelight
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Hi There,

Thank you for this amazing place with an abundance of good information.

I am new to this site, however water fasting has been a stable in my diet for the past 4 years. Both intermittent 16/8 and 24 hour water fasts was a part of my regimen.

I came across dry fasting, and recently did a 72 hour soft dry fast, with very good benefits.

After reading more upon the subject, I came up with this regimen, that I would love to have your thoughts on. My motivation for dry fasting is both for spiritual, mental as physical health.

Everyday 16/8 Intermittent rigid Dry Fasting (fast hand wash allowed after toilet, but thinking about adding tissue wipes instead) - Eating/Drinking stops around 18-19 and is started again around 11-12. - This is very easy for me since I have been doing IF water fasts for the past 4 years with no problems. It is the exact equivalent of just "skipping breakfast".

I have added a weekly 24 hour rigid dry fast in the middle of the week (I am undergoing one right now and I am 16 hours in)

Then I am planning to add a monthly 72 hour rigid dry fast during fool moon each month, this month it is on the 15th of April. The gravitational pull from the moon and the sun during this period, is supposed to have an extra detoxing effect on the fast.

Furthermore I will try to schedule a 7 day rigid dry fast once pr. year, during summer or another period where I will be able to be alone and have the time for it. During my 72 hours soft dry fast, I was very weak on the third day, and couldn't do much but be in bed.

All the fasts and everyday life is combined with lots of breathing exercises, yoga and some bodyweight exercises.

What do you guys think of this regimen?

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10 Apr 2014 13:59 #21302 by kaypeeoh
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I don't understand the point of a 'dry fast'. Personally, to fast more than a day I need to drink a lot of water. More than if I were eating normally. Fluids help in detoxing.

"During my 72 hours soft dry fast, I was very weak on the third day, and couldn't do much but be in bed"

Shouldn't that be a clue that dry fasts are not optimum?

kpo

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10 Apr 2014 14:03 #21303 by Limelight
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kaypeeoh wrote: I don't understand the point of a 'dry fast'. Personally, to fast more than a day I need to drink a lot of water. More than if I were eating normally. Fluids help in detoxing.

"During my 72 hours soft dry fast, I was very weak on the third day, and couldn't do much but be in bed"

Shouldn't that be a clue that dry fasts are not optimum?

kpo


Hi Kpo,

Thank you for your reply, however since this is the "dry fast" part of the forum, I am not sure what you are questioning. There is a big difference in water fast and dry fasts.

There is some really good material on this page, and several other places where you can read about it.

Greets
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10 Apr 2014 14:12 #21304 by kaypeeoh
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You're right, I should have done some research first. I was asking, not criticizing. In the Dry Fasting section I found this post by Dr K:


"I personally do dry fasting but I do not generally recommend it, as most people are just too toxic to do it safely. Pure water is formed during fasting when oxygen from the air combines with hydrogen in carbohydrates and fats.. so even if you did not drink it, you do get it. And as all water molecules are practically identical, the net effect on your body is the same.

The safest remains to drink BASED ON YOUR THIRST, and hope that your innate thirst sensation has not been confused by all the synthetic substances in the modern "food and drink.."


kpo

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10 Apr 2014 16:30 #21306 by Limelight
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Thanks for your reply, however I was only asking for thoughts on the regimen, nothing else.

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10 Apr 2014 17:10 #21307 by danielle
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I read somewhere that one day of dry fasting is equivalent to 2 or 3 days water. I get to a point where I am not thirsty, and I have read posts of people who say after a certain amount of fasting days, they are not thirsty either. I think it's best to honor your body...if you feel like you need water, take it, if not, don't. I met with a natural health practitioner once and she told me I was drinking too much water. I think people get fearful that they will dehydrate so they load up on fluids. For some intuitive reason, this feels wrong. Does drinking fluids activate the digestive system, on some level? Sometimes, when I am trying to get my fast going, mucous is released. If I drink water, the mucous increases, and I feel more bloated. If I don't drink anything, the mucous and stuffed feeling goes away quicker. Perhaps you want to ask the doctor about dry versus water...

Good Luck and just do what feels right!

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10 Apr 2014 17:11 #21308 by danielle
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P.S. I just read KP's thread and the doctor already commented on the dry/water issue. Seem very wise and logical!

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28 Apr 2014 17:55 - 28 Apr 2014 17:59 #21540 by paullikethesaint
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Sounds solid if you can manage it with all of life's other commitments. I've done both dry and wet fasting at varying intervals and for me I settled on a 36-40 dry fast once a week. This gets me past the 24 hour mark so that I can be fairly certain I'm in ketosis but yet it's ONLY 36 hours so I'm able to manage the rest of my life too. I try and follow the Doctor's five step process to help speed up detox during this period and, because I run and exercise on a regular basis, I usually will do a 20-30 minute run as well to help detox. However, my experience is that I can usually only manage the run early in the fast, after a certain point I'm just too weak so don't bother with it. I've also try to heed the advice of the Doctor as far as listening to your body about drinking water. I've gotten to a point now when I know I should drink water versus when it's just a craving. Sure I can probably push myself to go longer without taking a drink but I've learned to let it go and now don't worry too much about wether or not I actually go certain number of hours dry or not in a particular fast (I used to worry about that a lot when I first started fasting). I'm doing this to maintain good health and if one week I go 30 hours dry and the next 38 hours dry then so be it. At the end of the day it's the accumulative effect of doing it regularly over time that will be the best benefit. Fasting is fasting and if your body needs water, then take a small amount until it doesn't. You're still getting the benefits of fasting and you still have to be disciplined in your approach.

Any way, I think you're plan sounds great. It sounds like you're pretty experience fasting so I don't think you should have any problems. Doing a seven day dry fast would be pretty amazing but I know that people have done it. Make sure you go into any dry fasting being open to listen to your body's needs, it will tell you when if it really needs to drink water. If it does, drink some water, wait, listen, take more if needed or drive on with the dry fasting until you're done!

Good luck and please post back more information on your experiences. Thanks

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29 Apr 2014 08:51 #21542 by Limelight
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Hi Paul,

Thank you very much for your reply.

During my full moon fast on 15th April I found out that I was doing to much strenuous exercises, and I felt dehydrated and a big lack of energy.

Next time I will keep calm with more energising exercises instead of doing ones that drain the energy.

I found out that I miscalculated the weekly fasts, and instead of 36 hours it is 40 hours - this works really well for me.

Besides that I am vegan, and try to eat as much raw as possible, which helps a lot with easing into the fasts.

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30 Apr 2014 17:24 - 30 Apr 2014 17:24 #21555 by paullikethesaint
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Wow, being you're a vegan and if you stick to the fast regimen you've outlined, you should be one of the healthiest people on the planet! I'd love to cross over to be being a real vegan but it's just not practical for me because no one close to me is and I already have a hard enough time being respectful of my family and friend's dietary habits! I try and eat raw as much as I can but I can't say I'm any where near the commitment of someone who sticks to a vegan diet; I have a lot of respect for those of you that can manage it full time!

So is transitioning to fasting is pretty easy for you then? I can't imagine the detoxing isn't that bad when you're already running the engine pretty clean ;)

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04 May 2014 11:55 #21594 by Limelight
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Hopefully in combination with my spiritual practises: Breathing exercises, Yoga, Cold Showers, Earthing, Barefoot Running, and Calisthenics - I think I am well in my way to a very healthy lifestyle.

I am not sure where you are from, however in Scandinavia being Vegan is Quite easy, and we have many organic grocery stores popping up, and the food taste amazing.

I am transitioning to being 80/10/10 organic low fat raw vegan, which I find a bit harder, since it is an enormous amount of food that needs to be taken inn everyday to satisfy hunger. However eating this clean feels amazing on my allergies, body, energy levels and general performance. And it is very easy to transition into the fasts, since the body is already in a light state.

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