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11 Jul 2011 22:46 - 11 Jul 2011 22:46 #8332 by Yuliya
Yuliya replied the topic: Re: Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Hi Milena,

The body fat percentage stayed the same, correct?
But since this is a percentage, then the body fat in pounds must have gone up.

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11 Jul 2011 23:07 #8333 by Milena
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Yuliya wrote: Hi Milena,

The body fat percentage stayed the same, correct?
But since this is a percentage, then the body fat in pounds must have gone up.


Technically it might be view that my body fat amount have gone up .6 lbs. However, if we followed that logic, it would also mean that my muscle and other non-fat tissue mass showed a gain of 2.8 lbs which I know is not the case. I have not been consuming anything that would promote such increase in one week. Therefor, my conslusion that the gain is fluid related, particularly since I started my period the morning after I weighed myself.

Remember that this is a weekly reading and every day my body weight fluctuates between 1.5 lb to 3 lbs depending where I am on my fast. Hence, I would not view it as an accurate estimate of increase or decrease of fat. On another hand if I would have the same amount of body weight but growth in fat percentage, then I would be concerned with increase in fat mass.

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12 Jul 2011 04:22 #8342 by Yuliya
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Milena wrote:

Yuliya wrote: Remember that this is a weekly reading and every day my body weight fluctuates between 1.5 lb to 3 lbs depending where I am on my fast. Hence, I would not view it as an accurate estimate of increase or decrease of fat.


Of course your body fat is not going 1.5 lb to 3lb up and down, but it is very likely going 1.5 * 0.287 to 3 * 0.287 (if body fat is 2.87%) and assuming that your measuring device is pretty accurate.


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12 Jul 2011 20:57 #8349 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Yuliya,

I am not sure what you mean by 2.87% body fat since it is 28.7%

I want to reiterate that even though my reading showed a 3.4 lbs difference between two readings one week appart, I easily go up and down that much in 24 hours. Which would mean, based on your suggestion, that I gain and lose 2.8 lbs of non-fat tissue and .6 lbs of fat in 24 hours. Quite impossible, don't you think?

Yes, for some people who maintain their weight with maybe up to one pound fluctuation 3 lbs change could mean a gain of extra weight and they could rely on this infromation with certainty. For me with my fluctuation I had to figure out something else, such as body fat percentage. I believe no change in my readings means no weight has been gained, only fluids and food in my instestines.

Starting tomorrow morning I will start tracking down my daily weight just to see what my fluctuations look like and post them weekly.

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13 Jul 2011 00:01 - 13 Jul 2011 00:01 #8351 by Yuliya
Yuliya replied the topic: Re: Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Dear Milena,

2.87% body fat was a typo :)

I'm not quite sure how long it takes to gain fat, since I think it is possible to loose it quite quickly through intense dehydration or exercise.

I do agree that the food in our intestinal tracts affects the body composition measurements.
That's why I always weigh myself in the same time in the morning after going to the bathroom and before eating/drinking anything.

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13 Jul 2011 01:00 #8355 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Yuliya,

You have to keep in mind that body fat monitors do not actually measure your body fat percentage, they determine your body density and then estimate your body fat percentage based on that. In the case of my monitor this estimate turned out to be pretty accurate comparing to the resutls of my hydrostatic body compositon test. Still it is an estimate. As such, it's best use is to monitor a progress: is it up? is it down? is it the same? What is the actual weight of body fat vs body muscles is not important for me on a week to week basis, it only would make a real difference if I would have gone up by several percent or gone down.

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13 Jul 2011 06:19 #8361 by Yuliya
Yuliya replied the topic: Re: Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Milena,

I hope you know that my comments are not personal at all.
I just have a mathematical mind type and I like being accurate especially if you are conducting an experiment.

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13 Jul 2011 07:47 #8362 by Milena
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Of course I know that your comments are not personal. I too have a very scientific mind and do look at every variable when making a conclusion...:)

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13 Jul 2011 20:42 #8379 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: End of Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
July 13th, 2011

Vitals Results:

My starting weight four weeks ago was 144.6 lbs.

My weight at 7:30 am this morning was 144.6 lbs

Review of the past 4 weeks:

During the past four weeks I have completed eight 36-hour dry fast (two per week). On my eating days I had unrestricted omnivorous diet including occasional alcoholic beverages. In fact, I can confidently say that I was eating more and richer foods then I did previously and was not restricting myself to low fat items. If I wanted to have a hamburger I'd have one.

I tried to complete my 30 minutes of walking 5 days a week, but it did not always happen and some days I ended up skipping them. My activity levels were moderate, I do not run and do not engage in any sports. Most of my phisical movements come from shopping and doing house chores.

Conclusion:

Through my intermittent fasting I discovered that:

1. Long term intermittent fasting is a great way to maintain your weight if you want to continue indulging yourself with food and do not have a goal to lose weight.

2. You have to be flexible with your fasts otherwise they will start feeling like a burden and you will quit. If something comes up and you have to move it or stop up for a while, you can do that, provided you will get back on track as soon as possible.

3. Intermittent fasting enables your stomach to shrink to its original size and helps your body to guide you in how much it wants you to eat. You feel full a lot faster when you perform intermittent fasts, then when you don't.

4. It's very important to allow yourself to rest on your fasting days. Personally I would require a lot more sleep when dry fasting. I call it my hybernation days. For instance I often would take a nap during my lunch hour and would go to bed as early as possible. But then my non-fasting days were full of energy and very productive.

As of this morning I am on a PArt II of my 12-week Program: Vegan Diet (NO EGGS, NO FISH, NO MEAT and NO DAIRY) with two 36-hour dry fasts per week.

I know it will be challenging since it will cut off many foods I am used to eating, but I am willing to stick with this program for the next four weeks to see what benefits and gifts this change will bring me.

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15 Jul 2011 07:26 #8411 by Milena
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Milena wrote:
On July 7th, 2011 at 20:00

weight - 145.2 lbs
body fat - 28.7%


On July 14th, 2011 at 20:00

weight - 146.6 lbs
body fat - 29.0%

I am not happy about this increase, particularly since I just transitioned into vegan diet and controlling how much I eat has proven to be difficult on my day one, largely due to the sense of dissatisfaction with my food.

I went to the Trader Joe's store today and bought several vegan frozen entrees, edamame beans, sprouted whole-wheat bagels, flax seed cereal, soy milk and some vegan chocolate chip cookies. Tomorrow I will go produce shopping to my favorite market to stock up on veggies and fruits. Hopefully I can make this vegan diet work for me without gaining weight...:)

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15 Jul 2011 15:05 #8414 by borota
borota replied the topic: Re: End of Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Hi Milena,

I feel I may have somewhat mislead you with my post about the need to eat much while switching to a plant based diet.

This is the AWESOME thing about plant eating. As long as you avoid OIL and nuts and seeds, avocados and other high fat plants (which is recommended when pursuing weight loss), feel free to eat AS MUCH AS you want, and you will lose weight without being mindful of it. Unless there is nothing more to lose - that is the body has reached its own ideal weight.

This has been the experience of so many of us. We lost weight without even caring about that. And YOU CAN and YOU SHOULD eat indeed all you want and feel the need to. No restriction as long as it's of the lower fat plant kind of foods and its not soaked in oil.

The plant based diet is unique in the fact that you are not required to really do dieting. As long as it's of the right kind, ENJOY and eat as much as you feel like eating.
And in the initial stages, don't worry about food volume, much of it comes out poorly digested anyway :- )

If you still want to do some sort of plant based dieting, for maximum weight loss, McDougall's has a book which is a bit more restrictive on what you eat, but still, even with that one, you can eat ALL YOU WANT.
www.amazon.com/Mcdougall-Program-Maximum...t-Loss/dp/0452273803

I found this mindset of eating all you need to be liberating. It's so different than all the dieting staff I have had read before that.

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15 Jul 2011 19:18 #8428 by Esmée La Fleur
Esmée La Fleur replied the topic: Re: End of Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Thank you, borota, for sharing your experience. I could not have said it better myself. When Milena was planning her weight-loss program, I highly recommended that she eliminate oils, and all high fat vegan foods like nuts, seed, ansd avocados, for the very reason that you have so eloquently explained. It is the fat, indeed, that is the main problem. However, I also think it is very important to limit or exclude all processed foods for best results. Most processed foods (even those claiming to be organic and healthy) contain sugars and white flour which will make a person feel hungry, and many contain added fat/oil as well. The best plan is to eat only WHOLE foods, i.e. baked potatoes, sweet potatoes, winter squash, whole grains, beans, vegetables and fruits. It is really very simple--just eat the food as close to the way it came out of the ground as possible.

On a side note, Milena...

I really admire you for being willing to try a diet that you do not like for a whole variety of reasons. But, if you are really unhappy with the diet, I am not sure it will do you much good to force yourself to eat it and be miserable. The doctors who use a natural, plant-based diet to heal cancer have all stated that the patients who succeed are the ones who embrace their new diet with their whole heart. If they are unhappy with the diet they tend to do very poorly, even if they follow the recommendations. So, I encourage you very strongly to do what makes you happy.

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15 Jul 2011 19:55 #8429 by borota
borota replied the topic: Re: End of Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Esmée, this is really interesting what you are saying.
Some of my own family with cardiovascular problems or other ailments, after much pounding on their head from my end, reluctantly started on a plant based diet. But they didn't really take it wholeheartedly. Not only did they stop not much longer after they started, but even more they faulted me that in between they have developed some extra symptoms and some electrolyte imbalances.

I was not there to see it, but I am inclined to believe they didn’t do it "correctly" either. Because I never developed any electrolyte imbalances yet since I am eating plants. And not only that, but my test results look very beautiful each time. That was never the case before.

I struggled to understand this. It looks like if you don't believe in something you are doing, not only you won't do it correctly but maybe even your body will not work with you. I heard some guy doing a lecture one day and he was saying metaphorically: "Your cells understand English. If you telling them you will die, they will die (in the context of cancer surviving)".

It seems like believing is a powerful motivating factor. If you don't believe it, you won't do it wholeheartedly and "correctly", but even more, your body won't believe it either and not do the cleaning and the adjustment it was supposed to do, it seems. Interesting.

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15 Jul 2011 19:59 #8430 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: End of Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting

borota wrote: Hi Milena,

I feel I may have somewhat mislead you with my post about the need to eat much while switching to a plant based diet.

This is the AWESOME thing about plant eating. As long as you avoid OIL and nuts and seeds, avocados and other high fat plants (which is recommended when pursuing weight loss), feel free to eat AS MUCH AS you want, and you will lose weight without being mindful of it. Unless there is nothing more to lose - that is the body has reached its own ideal weight.

This has been the experience of so many of us. We lost weight without even caring about that. And YOU CAN and YOU SHOULD eat indeed all you want and feel the need to. No restriction as long as it's of the lower fat plant kind of foods and its not soaked in oil.

The plant based diet is unique in the fact that you are not required to really do dieting. As long as it's of the right kind, ENJOY and eat as much as you feel like eating.
And in the initial stages, don't worry about food volume, much of it comes out poorly digested anyway :- )

If you still want to do some sort of plant based dieting, for maximum weight loss, McDougall's has a book which is a bit more restrictive on what you eat, but still, even with that one, you can eat ALL YOU WANT.
www.amazon.com/Mcdougall-Program-Maximum...t-Loss/dp/0452273803

I found this mindset of eating all you need to be liberating. It's so different than all the dieting staff I have had read before that.


Dear Greg,

You did not misled me at all. And I was never big on oils and avocados, but I do like nuts, although I do know how to limit them as well. Usually the reason I would gain weight is from eating baked good, but since eggs and dairy are out for now, there is not much baked goods available for vegans. I did by some vegan chocolate chip cookies, but I was never a huge fan of cookies so I know the consumption of those will be moderate as well. So the only thing left for me to worry about in terms of weight gain is grains. But I guess I will have to monitor that to some degree.

I found some very yummy vegan entrees at Trader Joe's that should make this experience a bit more exciting for me.

The main idea of this four weeks is not to be VEGAN, although I called it that. The idea is to eliminate two food groups (DAIRY and ANIMAL ORIGINATED PROTEINS) and see how it will effect weight loss. So I have to eat as normal as possible within that concept. Hence, I have no intention to limit how much I will eat as long as I feel that I need to...:) The following four weeks after completion of my vegan experiment I will eliminate OILS and GRAINS in addtion to the two previous groups and see what happens then. So essentially I will be eating frutarian diet with some veggies.

I really don't want to follow any developed systems with all due respect to the doctors who designed them, instead I want to see how someone who is not willing to make too many changes can benefit from minimal steps...:)

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15 Jul 2011 20:35 - 15 Jul 2011 20:45 #8431 by Esmée La Fleur
Esmée La Fleur replied the topic: Re: End of Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting
Milena said:

The main idea of this four weeks is not to be VEGAN, although I called it that. The idea is to eliminate two food groups (DAIRY and ANIMAL ORIGINATED PROTEINS) and see how it will effect weight loss. So I have to eat as normal as possible within that concept.

Esmée's response:

I guess I didn't really understand this objective of yours. All I can say is that I don't think it will have much benefit in terms of weight loss for you based on all the fat vegans I know who have done just this, but who continue to eat a diet high in refined and processed crap and addedoils/fats. Research has shown, again and again, that it is not the animal protein that is a problem, it is the animal FAT, and even low-fat dairy is extremely high in fat percentage wise. (2% is a complete lie; it is actually areond 32%). SO if your diet contains any animal products you automatically get a certain amount of fat every day. However, if you eat only plant foods, you have to go out of your way to ADD fat through the additition of certain foods like avocadoes, nuts, seeds, or (and this is a huge OR) through the addition of refines, processed, and extracted oils or fats (oilve oil, coconut oil, almond oil, etc. none of which grow as an oil, but must have the oil processed out of them). It would be interesting to know who much fat you are consuming every day on your "no animal foods" diet. BTW, grains can be addictive and can cause compulsive eating--but if you do not eat added fat, even this should not cause weight gain.

Milena said:

I really don't want to follow any developed systems with all due respect to the doctors who designed them, instead I want to see how someone who is not willing to make too many changes can benefit from minimal steps...:)

Esmée's response:

I am not sure why you would not want to follow a dietary program that has been getting phenomenally successful results for 20+ years. The changes you are making in your food choices are really not any more different than they would be if you followed a diet of WHOLE foods with no added fat. In stead of buying packaged, processed crap from Trader Joes, you could just as easily have bought beans, rice, sweet potatoes, corn on the cob, broccoli, etc. I guess on of the issues for you is the time involved in preparing foods from scratch, as most of what you eat seems to be ready to eat or close to it. Am I correct?

I do not mean to sound abrasive or confrontational here, I am just frustrated with your decision because basically you are going to prove nothing except what we already know: it is easy to gain weight on a high-fat, high-processed, vegan diet. Please forgive me, lol!

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15 Jul 2011 20:39 #8432 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: End of Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting

Esmée La Fleur wrote: The best plan is to eat only WHOLE foods, i.e. baked potatoes, sweet potatoes, winter squash, whole grains, beans, vegetables and fruits. It is really very simple--just eat the food as close to the way it came out of the ground as possible.


It is my intend to eat whole foods, believe me. The problem I virtually have no time to cook during the week. I am usually up by 6:00 am and out the door by 6:46 am. By the time I come home after picking up my kids it's between 6:00 and 6:30 pm. At that point I have been up and running for 12 hours and cooking is the last thing on my mind. So often times we either go out or I buy precooked food at Trader Joe's (They claim that they do not add any preservatives in their food and I can tell you for sure if you don't eat it the same day or so, it does go bad.) That is the predicament most American families with two working parents face.

My hudband's aunt stays with us on the weekend and cooks. But we are all so spoiled by variety on a daily basis that hardly anyone in my family, except for myself, is willing to eat the same thing for more then one day. If I were to cook at home I would have to come up with new dinner every night and that would be virtually impossible after 12 hours of working and being on the road.

On the weekends we try to be out as much as possible visiting places and going to events. I do not feel that spending my weekends cooking would be valuable for me. besides no one would eat anything more then once and spending an hour or so for one meal makes no sense.

So that leaves me with doing the best I can under circumstances. Thank God for Trader Joe's and Whole Foods and their frozen sections. They will make the next four weeks easy for me.

Esmée La Fleur wrote: On a side note, Milena...

I really admire you for being willing to try a diet that you do not like for a whole variety of reasons. But, if you are really unhappy with the diet, I am not sure it will do you much good to force yourself to eat it and be miserable. The doctors who use a natural, plant-based diet to heal cancer have all stated that the patients who succeed are the ones who embrace their new diet with their whole heart. If they are unhappy with the diet they tend to do very poorly, even if they follow the recommendations. So, I encourage you very strongly to do what makes you happy.


As I stated in my post for Greg, the next four weeks are not about being restictive vegan per se, but about eliminating two food groups from my diet. As such, I can still eat close to usual, provided I do not consume dairy and animal originated proteins. So on that note I will make sure that I am as happy on this diet as possible and if I really want an ice cream, I will go and get the Rice Dream..:)

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15 Jul 2011 20:45 #8434 by Milena
Milena replied the topic: Re: End of Week 4 of the 12-WEEK 36-hr twice a week Intermittent Dry Fasting

borota wrote:
It seems like believing is a powerful motivating factor. If you don't believe it, you won't do it wholeheartedly and "correctly", but even more, your body won't believe it either and not do the cleaning and the adjustment it was supposed to do, it seems. Interesting.


You are absolutely right. That is probably one of the reasons why my husband's country (Republic of Georgian) is known for its centerians who eat meat and dairy along with plants and drink tone of wine all their lives, yet remain vital and active past 100 years of age.

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15 Jul 2011 20:48 #8435 by Esmée La Fleur
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Okay, I've had my little rant and I will shut up now...:angry:

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15 Jul 2011 21:55 #8436 by Milena
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Esmée La Fleur wrote: BTW, grains can be addictive and can cause compulsive eating--but if you do not eat added fat, even this should not cause weight gain.


That's one of my fears since I've always been prone to overeating when it comes to grains. I hope that my dry fasting will help me to not go that way as my stomach will be shrunk back to its original size every couple of days.

Esmée La Fleur wrote: I am not sure why you would not want to follow a dietary program that has been getting phenomenally successful results for 20+ years. The changes you are making in your food choices are really not any more different than they would be if you followed a diet of WHOLE foods with no added fat. In stead of buying packaged, processed crap from Trader Joes, you could just as easily have bought beans, rice, sweet potatoes, corn on the cob, broccoli, etc. I guess on of the issues for you is the time involved in preparing foods from scratch, as most of what you eat seems to be ready to eat or close to it. Am I correct?


Yes, time is a big factor! In my household cooking in advance for several days and having left-overs does not work. Everyone wants something different for every meal and slaving in front of a stove for half a day on my Saturday and Sunday does not appeal to me. Most of the weekend we have two meals per day, breakfast and dinner with snacking on fruits in between as I simply refuse to cook.

There is another bigger factor, I absolutely hate cooking, even making scrambled eggs for my kids gives me creeps. In fact the only times I truly enjoyed cooking was when I was doing my 40-day fast. Some women are born natural cooks and love it, I absolutely envy them. While my dad was a good cook, my mom hated it all her life, so I guess I took after her.

I even approached it with my therapist and he told me that cooking was just not in my make up and I really need not worry about it too much..:) My husband is a great cook and enjoys cooking but he does not have time either. All my kids know how to cook certain things for themselves, including my youngest, 6-year old daughter, because they know how much I distaste being in front of a stove.

The same goes for the reason why I would not want to follow a certain diet that has been successful for 20+ years. It's because they all require cooking and following recipes. If a book has a recipes section I will not buy it simply because it is a huge turn off for me. I would rather fast for another 40-days and get the weight loss I want, than spend 40 days cooking every day, even if that would give me the same results at the end. It might sound crazy but it is how I feel, I am sure my passion on this subject came through loud and clear..:)

Now, speaking of being happy, you are right, I have to make my diets work for me and keep myself happy...:) for me happy means being served or given food without being involved in its preparation..:) I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way about cooking and hope that whatever I can learn in this experience, both up side and down side, will help others to determine their own course.

Esmée La Fleur wrote: I do not mean to sound abrasive or confrontational here, I am just frustrated with your decision because basically you are going to prove nothing except what we already know: it is easy to gain weight on a high-fat, high-processed, vegan diet. Please forgive me, lol!


Years ago I cut out dairy for a month and lost about 12 lbs with no other changes in my diet. So I assume that cutting out two food groups will provide me with similar results. I would assume that eventually if one continues eating high-fat vegan diet they would gain weight, but I think that the first several weeks would induce weight loss as your body goes through initial shock due to this dietary withdrawal of two food groups. We shall see what happens in four weeks.

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15 Jul 2011 21:57 #8437 by Milena
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Esmée La Fleur wrote: Okay, I've had my little rant and I will shut up now...:angry:


Your rants are always welcome!..lol

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