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07 Nov 2012 21:31 #13585 by 10syogactress
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Hi Everyone!

I am new to this wonderful site as well as to water fasting. I was originally going to do a 14-day water fast but decided to instead ease my way into fasting by doing more of a "EatStopEat". Here is my plan:

11/6:
0,
11/7:
1,
11/8:
0+0.5,
11/9:
0.5,
11/10:
0,
11/11:
0,
11/12:
1,
11/13:
0,
11/14:
0,
11/15:
0,
11/16:
1,
11/17:
1,
11/18:
0,
11/19:
0,
11/20:
0,
11/21:
1,
11/22:
1,
11/23:
1,
11/24:
1,
11/25 until 11/30:
0

Does anyone want to join me for an IF in the month of November? I know that there are others who are doing a flat-out fast for the month of November, but I cannot do this, although one day I certainly will!

I am doing this for weight loss, gain some self-discipline and also to understand myself better.

Please post any suggestions on how to get through an IF, ways to not binge during the fast and anything else you like! I will try to update this as much as possible and I look forward to hearing from all of you!!

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08 Nov 2012 01:03 #13588 by 10syogactress
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Oh gosh.

Today was absolutely terrible. After the sushi that I ate at about 5:30pm, my classmates informed me that our class is canceled and we are all going out for dinner!

I was excited to go hang out with my classmates and they were excited to watch me eat (most of them had been following my Facebook daily updates about my 28-day juice fast).

I feel so weak today and tonight. What happened? I had two glasses of wine and a BUNCH of dessert-pecan pie, two large macaroons, chocolate flourless cake, and as I sit here writing this, thinking that I am the biggest hypocrite and loser in the entire world, I am eating a delicious vegan cake at my favorite vegan restaurant.

WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN? Does anyone else have binge stories and/or stories or advice of how to recover from binges, followed by or prior to fasting? I am so sorry for this rant and rave...I really do want to fix my behavior only I am not so sure as to how to do this!! Sigh. I never want to binge again. I want to be in control of my eating-when I am in control of this on my "1" days, I know that my "0" days will also be much easier. Why doesn't this register in my head?

Please help. Please share anything. Much love to all of you.

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08 Nov 2012 11:13 #13595 by 10syogactress
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Today is my day 0+0.5.

I got up early this morning to go teach yoga and other than the trains running late because of weather, my day has been great.

I definitely spent a lot of money on my "1" yesterday-a lot of money on food! I am really looking forward to not spending money on food today nor for 1/2 of the day tomorrow. Tomorrow evening I will be going out to dinner with a friend whom I have not seen in about 5 years! Also, I have a birthday party to attend tomorrow. Must not binge tomorrow.

You know, I am finding that fasting is easier than dieting. With eating even a small amount of food, as I have done my entire life, I feel soo hungry. Some people love this feeling but to me, it feels torturous many times-I just get so hungry! I am really loving fasting-almost no hunger pangs and more weight loss (because you take in less food).

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10 Nov 2012 01:56 #13625 by Breadandwine
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Hi 10syogactress

I've been doing versions of 5:2 successfully for the past 9 months, and I'm slowly beginning to understand how the appetite works.

As I see it, when you haven't eaten for a while, your appetite switch goes over to the off mode. If you eat - say in the morning - the body says "Ah, food, this must be a feast day" so, not long after you've eaten, you start to feel hungry again. While you keep your appetite switch off, your body says, "OK, no food around, this must be a fasting day, and your appetite switch remains off.

This is certainly the way it works for me. Having this knowledge, when I'm preparing a meal, for instance, I know, if I start nibbling, I'll want to nibble constantly until I serve up. If I control myself, and don't have that first nibble, it doesn't bother me and I don't eat until I sit down at the table.

The switch is always there, in the background, ready to go into "I want more" mode just as soon as you start eating. The trick (and I haven't quite mastered this yet! :) ) is to know just when - and when not - to flick the switch.

HTH!

Good wishes for your fast - you know you can do it!

Paul
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10 Nov 2012 03:12 #13627 by Ockeghem
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Paul,

Nicely said. Your experiences with that 'switch' echo mine quite similarly. If I eat nothing, I'm fine -- sometimes for days on end. But once I succumb (whether deliberate or not), I quickly revert back to the 'I want more' mode. For me, there is very little (if any) grey area. It's all or nothing when I fast. This may eventually prove difficult for me if/when I ever decide to convert/transition to some version of the '010' or '5:2' methods. We'll see!

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10 Nov 2012 12:35 #13630 by Mystic
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I can relate so much, It's always all or nothing for me. I did a couple of 22 hour IF's during the week. I ended up eating not from hunger but fear of not eating for too long. Once I have a snack, I find it hard to stop. It's much worse should I start eating in the morning. IF is the only way I know to keep hunger at bay. I usually do 16-18 hour per day, I would like to IF 19-20 hours per day. What is a 0+0.5 day? My weight was 126 today but it will be more tomorrow. My goal is 122-124, about the same as you.

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10 Nov 2012 18:48 #13634 by david
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Hi Mystic so nice to see you back on the board. I can relate to what you are saying as like you when the fridge door opens the die is cast :) Feel free to email me if you like the contact page email form.

The 19-20 hour fast works well providing the last meals are not late night meals as they tend to convert to fat rather quickly.
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11 Nov 2012 01:10 #13645 by 10syogactress
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Hi Mystic,

What I called a 0+0.5 is doing a day-and-a-half of fasting. This did not really work for me because I ended up eating at the end of the first day because I couldn't fall asleep.

BreadandWine- thank you for your input!

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11 Nov 2012 07:54 #13647 by 10syogactress
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Today was supposed to be my "fast" day. I went to a going away party where the hostess is Greek and was pretty much asked/forced to eat. I had her come up to me and say, "oh you have to try the dolmas and all of my desserts!!" So, I could not say no, even after telling her that I had a "huge dinner."
Then my best friend took me to her favorite beer garden and insisted on trying out all of these beers. Ugh. Once again, today, I could not say no.

I keep making excuses for myself as to when it is okay to eat. I think that yes, it is nice to eat but when you are fasting, you cannot. SO I have to get it into my head that it is not okay to make exceptions, just like Caveman said in one of his replies to me, you can do other things than eat - tell people that you have a medical test in the morning and you have to not eat before the test, you can have some kind of a water with a cherry or lime in it, you can say that you don't feel well...so many things! And still, my psyche decided to cave in and eat. Although people suggested I eat and drink tonight, I really did not have to. Grrr....Must. Stop. Eating!!!

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11 Nov 2012 13:04 - 11 Nov 2012 13:08 #13649 by Ockeghem
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10syogactress,

I know it can be difficult to say 'no' on occasion. I broke a fast a couple of weeks ago because we were having company over to our home. It would have been a bit odd for me not to eat when everyone else was eating. I just started another fast after that.

Holidays are another interesting challenge. Thanksgiving is coming up next week. It's only going to be with my immediate family, but it's still somewhat of a difficult decision for me (especially with our younger children observing me) whether or not I join them for dinner. It's amazing how much of our lives seem to revolve around food (and eating) in general.

I just keep telling myself that tomorrow is another day! :)

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11 Nov 2012 13:24 #13650 by Lisafast
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I am tempted to try out this alternate day fasting. I just completed a 36 hour dry fast. My plans are to fast for 5-10 days but perhaps 010 would fit into my busy lifestyle better. Here are my two concerns: 1. I worry that I will overheat on my eating days and not lose weight ( I'm looking to lose the extra weight that has crept on since I stopped fasting in May.) and 2. I worry that I'll be putting myself through that horrible first day of fasting over and over again. I have read that people who use this method find that their bodies adapt and eventually they don't feel tempted to eat on their fasting days.

Today I am meeting a date and my running group for a bike ride from Valley Forge to Manayunk in Philadelphia. This has typically been rewarded with arugula pizza from The Couch Tomato, an awesome cafe in Manayunk. So even though I am fasting and had planned to fast today, if I do eat, I will either begin my fast again or try the alternate day fasting. Sorry to be so indecisive but I am out of practice fasting and I can't guarantee that I will be strong enough to resist that delicious pizza.

I welcome any advice or suggestions. Thanks everyone!

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11 Nov 2012 13:38 - 11 Nov 2012 13:39 #13651 by Ockeghem
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Lisa,

When it comes to pizza, I don't have too many suggestions as it's one of my favorite foods. When I was thinking through the possibility of doing the ADF, I planned my Friday evenings to be a '1' day since that's the night we traditionally have pizza in our home. I don't think I could resist it, because I like it too much. The only times I have been successful at avoiding the temptation to eat it is when I'm doing a complete (many consecutive days) fast. When I am doing longer fasts, I make certain that the day on which I was to eat pizza is about five or six days into a fast. That way, the urge is gone to eat it by that time.

Best wishes on your bike ride and with your fasting. :)

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11 Nov 2012 14:21 #13653 by Lisafast
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I agree Ockeghem. Pizza can be difficult to resist. I have just decided to break the fast and make this my eating day. I had a banana and walnut butter and I am brewing some white tea. It will make the 24 mile bike ride go a little smoother. I have to admit my initial impression of 010 fasting was unfavorable but now it is seeming better and better to me.

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11 Nov 2012 18:26 #13656 by 10syogactress
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Ockeghem,

Thank you for your input. It certainly can be difficult to say no in social situations. I just reread yours, Paul's and Mystic's earlier posts on here and you are all so right! I, too, am an all or nothing girl: if I start to eat, I cannot stop. If I just go a little bit more and a little bit more, waiting for the hunger to pass, it gets much easier to get through it.

Sometimes when we are hungry, perhaps that is when we need to perservere the most. Perhaps it is our body communicating to us that "this is exactly how this moment needs to be."

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12 Nov 2012 20:12 #13672 by 10syogactress
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Feast day today

I woke up at 3am this morning and ate. I ate fairly a lot and fairly healthy (a first for me). Although I feel heavier today than I have in the past, I feel a lot better about choosing to eat lighter-a big salad with avocado, lots of nuts, gargonzola cheese. Throughout the day, I have had two coffee lattes, sushi, almond butter on celery, veggies with ranch. Now I am craving some organic dark chocolate. This is probably much too much food, but I suppose I am treating myself now and stocking up on fats and proteins, before my three-day fast that begins tomorrow.

Does anyone have thoughts on how and what to eat before a fast? I suppose I get scared of not eating enough and then starving myself during my fast days as opposed to eating smaller amounts and more healthy before my next fast.

I feel irritated and tired today. At least I will get to practice yoga and teach yoga today. I also had a tough movement class this morning already.

How is everyone doing?

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12 Nov 2012 23:25 - 12 Nov 2012 23:25 #13676 by Ockeghem
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10syogactress,

I'm doing fine, and I just broke a fast yesterday. But I began another one on the same day. :)

Lisa,

We will be having our weekly homemade pizza this Friday evening. That will be day five (and later that night, day six) of my current fast. If it were the second (or maybe even the third) day, I would probably choose to have some of the pizza. But knowing at that point that I will have a little more than a day remaining to get to one week is for me a great motivator. :)

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13 Nov 2012 16:40 #13692 by Lisafast
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So yesterday was my fasting day but I cheated with some teas a handful of pretzels and two bananas with nut butter. This was a bit of a success because I found myself at the grocery store with all this food in my cart...food which I put back. So today is my eating day and I'm making some lentil soup since it's a dreary day here in Pennsylvania. I'm also planning some Chinese food with my daughter. Chinese food for me means veggies and fried tofu and maybe a spring roll. Tomorrow I'm planning for a dry fast. I put it in writing so for more motivation.

10sYogaactress, the fast doctor usually recommends eating a fatty meal as your last meal before a fast. It primes your body to burn fat. I also find consuming coconut oil or coconut butter helps get me into ketosis much sooner. I also find if I eat a lot of refined flour or sugar I get a headache and have a more difficult time sticking to the fast. Hope that helps.
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14 Nov 2012 03:59 #13710 by 10syogactress
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Hi Lisa,

Thank you for your input! I went out and bought some coconut oil, avocadoes and some other healthier foods. Yesterday was my "1" day and what you said about processed sugar makes sense! I am not getting any headaches, but definitely finding it difficult to stay with a three day fast :( I am starved tonight!!

By the way, the more fasts you do, does it become easier to add on days to a fast or do you just keep doing the same number of days? I know that over time, it becomes easier to fast the more your body gets used to it, but I wonder if that is the same for adding on days. The reason I ask is that it seems that I am good on the water fast up until the very end of the day, where I get hunger pangs. Although I do have to admit that my first couple of water fasts, I had more hunger pangs than I do now. Hmm...interesting. I am very new to this (only about ten days into the water fasting itself, whether it is intermittent or whatnot) but I love it! The hunger pangs are definitely difficult and I still find myself bingeing on my "off" days, which is not good-I would like to be more in control of this.

I wish you the best of luck with your fast. I really enjoy reading your posts!

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15 Nov 2012 19:28 #13751 by 10syogactress
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PS- this is hard. No one said it is easy, but fasting is difficult. Somehow rewarding and wonderful at the same time too!

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15 Nov 2012 20:55 #13754 by Lisafast
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10syogactress

PS- this is hard. No one said it is easy, but fasting is difficult. Somehow rewarding and wonderful at the same time too!

This is so true. It is so worth it. And we are the fortunate few who know about it.
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