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26 Aug 2014 07:41 #23099 by rothery
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Dear doctor

I am curious at what point ketosis starts... is it only after all the liver glycogen is used up? Or after the glycogen is gone both from the liver and the muscle cells? Or, in someone who fasts regularly, does ketosis get triggered even before the glycogen stores are completely used up? Thus the body could save glycogen reserves as long as possible by using both metabolisms at the same time?

I have noticed the process changing as I get more practice with fasting and now it seems my body goes into "fasting mode" an hour or two after the first missed meal.. there is no way the glycogen is depleted at this stage, but if I am moving around and active at this point I will get this unmistakable "ketosis-taste" in my mouth. Is ketosis occurring sooner than before, or am I just more sensitive to the symptoms?

Thanks for your input!

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26 Aug 2014 09:00 #23100 by TheFastDoctor
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These physiological phenomena, dear Rothery, does not have clear "cutoff" points. In a "novice" to fasting ketogenesis may well only kick in once the glycogen is depleted, which is why you would temporarily at least have to rely on protein conversion (to carbohydrate) to supply your energy needs.

Indeed those of us who fasts regularly experiences ketosis sometimes even "in anticipation" of the fast, particularly if you have a fatty "last meal" before the fast.

So your interpretation is correct in my experience, having a "double barrel" metabolism for at least some time.

You do not need to be "more sensitive to the symptoms" although indeed they may be more familiar and therefore more easily recognised.. you really do "switch" much easier and sooner, if fasting occurs often.

André

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26 Aug 2014 10:53 #23102 by rothery
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Thank you doctor for your reply. Would there be any metabolic benefits, other than easier weight management, to having a more active catabolic metabolism?

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26 Aug 2014 10:58 #23103 by TheFastDoctor
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Well dear Rothery, the prime function of fasting is detox/cleansing, not weight loss. Reversing the metabolism allows you to burn the old fat and thus release the toxins accumulated in there, so these can be eliminated. Very often these toxins could interfere with the metabolism thus eliminating them definitely smoothes out some of the metabolic reactions.

André

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