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Alternative Day Fasting Experiment (Combined Water and Dry) on the Fruitarian Diet

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02 Jul 2011 06:17 #8130 by Yuliya
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Alternative Day Fasting Experiment - Day 19 (Eating)

My weight after 2 days dry fast was 116.8lb, which is about 1.5lb lighter than my usual weight after 1 day dry fast.

I broke my fast with water from young Thai coconuts and shortly after that I had a cherimoya. I felt fantastic!

I didn't have time for the workout, because I had to drive to the wholesale market to buy fruit for myself, my boss, his office, and the upcoming July 4th marathon race. I also went to my food coop on the way. In short I was driving around most of the day handing really heavy fruit boxes with bananas, oranges and apples. Until late in the evening I never had a chance to sit down to eat, but instead I was trying all kinds of different fruit (oranges, lychees, apricots, peaches, white nectarines, mangoes, cucumbers, raspberries) at the fruit market and while unloading my van at the drop off places.

Forget about monoeating, instead I was trying small amount of various fruit and it was a great experience. Still, I found myself really drawn and enjoying coconut water again during the day.

Than after I finally got home and unloaded my own fruit and put it away, I had to leave immediately to meet my husband in Manhattan where he bought us tickets for the evening with yet another raw food teacher. This particular guy was heavily into gourmet raw food preparation and the lecture was his marketing tool to get people to buy his more expensive workshops on all various kind of raw vegan cuisine.

I felt awesome throughout the day.
When my husband and I got home around 10 pm, I finally got a chance to sit down and to enjoy a cantaloupe and a honeydew in one sitting. After 2 days dry fast all I could think of were water rich foods.

Yet, my skin looked great and my eyes were very bright. I felt the life force raising up in my body seeking expression.

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02 Jul 2011 06:18 - 02 Jul 2011 06:18 #8131 by Yuliya
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Alternative Day Fasting Experiment - Day 20 (Eating)

I woke up with a strong desire to eat a honeydew. So, instead of working out I decided to go with my intuition and have one. It was really good. Than I felt as if I had a potential for a headache, so I took a hot & cold shower and laid down with my vibrational music for 15 minutes. Afterwards the feeling disappeared and I felt great for the rest of the day.

For lunch I went for a walk in the park to pick mulberries from the trees :) But I noticed that compared to my previous walk I ate a lot less, and also I didn't have the same desire to eat all the mulberries that were currently in the existence and that I could lay my hand on. It's like I didn't have to eat each and every one of them.

Later in the day I had small tiny baby mangoes that are as sweet as dates with nutty flavor.

And then in the evening I made a savory blended vegetable 'stew' or rather pate with lots of green peas in it, but I ended up not eating it and leaving it to my husband who really appreciated it.

So, I am noticing that I rarely want to eat large amount of the same fruit now. It's as if I value my stomach real estate so much, that I don't want to fill it up with the same thing. Now, I am starting to prefer to have small amount of different fruits.

I used to shop in wholesale buying boxes of fruits in order to save money. Now I find that I don't have to buy boxes, but rather I want to buy smaller amounts in the food coop or supermarket, so that I have variety rather than quantity, even if I have to pay more money.

I think I am having very similar experience to Milena, just adjusted to my diet.

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02 Jul 2011 06:19 #8132 by Yuliya
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Alternative Fasting Experiment - Day 21 (Dry Fast)

Today I still felt hungry and thirsty. Though I didn't really experienced suffering or deprivation associated with these physical sensations. Rather I was simply acknowledging them and watching them in the way I was never able to do before.

Using Ketostix I measured my ketones in the morning (about 12 hours into the fast) and later in the day (18 hours into the fast) and then in the evening (23 hours into the fast). At 12 hours and 18 hours there were not any ketones whatsoever. Than at 22-23 hours there was a trace ketosis (5%). No wonder I felt hungry all day long.

Oh, yes, and when I measured it shortly after breaking my 2 days dry fast - the ketosis was gone (just an hour or 2 after the stick was super dark, meaning full ketosis).

My energy today was very good. Except in the evening when I started feeling a bit tired after staring in computer all day long.

In the morning I did my push ups, etc, and in the middle of the day I took 3.5 mile walk.

Today I felt as if my will power was getting a great workout by all this fasting, and that I am finally able to see the results of my struggles. Today I felt that I was able to use this will power and discipline in any other areas of my life. I felt that I was finally getting in control of what I want to get done and what tasks I want to tackle. I felt that with this kind of discipline I would be able to achieve so much more than I was ever able to hope.

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02 Jul 2011 06:53 #8133 by Yuliya
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Alternative Day Fasting Experiment – Day 22 (Eating)

My after fasting weight today – 117.8lb - was a bit lower than my usual after fasting weight. It shows that I didn’t quite ‘recover’ from my 2 days fast yet.

Today I ate the whole bunch of all kinds of different foods including but not limited to coconut water, honeydews, white nectarines (divine!), my leftover pate from my previous eating day, ½ of sour sop (the second time in my life!) and a durian. All this wasn’t eaten in particularly good combinations and right now I am experiencing bloating and some gas.



In the middle of my morning honeydew meal I got a sore in the corner of my mouth. I used to get these sores all the time last year, since I eliminated the over fats and increased the amount of sweet juicy fruits in my diet. Particularly I would always get them from honeydews. Last summer I was literally suffering most of the time unable to open my mouth wide enough to eat anything or to brush my teeth.

This summer so far I wasn’t getting any lips sores and I attribute it partly to having gone through considerable detoxification over this time, and partly to giving my mouth regular rest from fruit acids by fasting. And yet today I got it again! This doesn’t bother me so much, but it shows me that I would not be able to go on a monodiet of honeydew melons yet. Something is my body is reacting to honeydews and I think that this something will be eliminated in its due time and then I will be able to eat all the honeydews I want.



Later in the day I got a strong desire for durian. I know that this desire wasn’t caused by some nutrient in durian that my body desperately needed, but simply by continuously watching my husband eating durians day in and day out, and also by anticipating tomorrow’s ‘starvation’ also known as fasting :)… As much as I would like to avoid overt fats during the summer, today I decided to indulge. Durian was one of the best ones. Very creamy – just like ice-cream. At least tomorrow I will have a chance to watch the development of my ketosis after the last meal of durian as compared to juicy fruits.

I still feel not quite balanced on my eating days. Especially it’s apparent when I don’t have to go anywhere and just work all day long at home. Stress at work combined with anticipation of upcoming fast causes me to eat a lot more than I would otherwise. Also I noticed that upcoming fast can become a great excuse in eating foods that I would successfully avoid otherwise. I hope that eventually I will get to the green pastures of balance and gourmet tasting without having to look for comfort or security in food.

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03 Jul 2011 05:27 - 03 Jul 2011 05:27 #8143 by Yuliya
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Alternative Day Fasting Experiment – Day 23(Dry Fast)

Today is my fasting day, but I feel more inspired to write and reflect on my eating days.

At this time fasting for one day did become a lot easier and quite manageable. Eating for one day in between the fasts seems to be a lot more challenging to me now. Not just getting through my eating days with my thoughts in chaos and finally stuffing myself sufficiently by evening time, so that I feel that I really don’t want any more food and am ready to meet yet another fasting day. This kind of behavior wasn’t rewarding to say the least. Today’s fast came and went. It is now evening and I am still alive and probably will stay alive for many more fasting days in my life. My main focus throughout this day was on tomorrow. On making a decision on how I am going to eat to make it a glorious summer day and a celebration of life and a pleasure of eating.

I really like a statement: “It’s not what we eat, it’s what we don’t eat that makes a difference”. I believe in the truth of it. Of course living by this statement, I still have to use my mind and best judgement to determine what are the things that I should be obstaining from. The foods that I am craving not because I need them but because I am addicted. I do not recommend nor I am going to eat EVERYTHING that appeals to my tastebuds. But I am going to eat ONLY those foods that appeal to my tastebuds, and having a choice I will eat the foods that appeal to my tastebuds THE MOST.

Tomorrow is my eating day. And I am determined to make it beautiful. Not disciplined. Not artificially correct with set meal times and portions. But beautiful. Sensuous and satisfying. Noticing not only the sensations of taste but also the touch of wind and sunshine, and the colors and the smells, just like I do when I am fasting. I want each of my eating experiences bring the greatest possible pleasure. I make a promise to myself that I will only eat foods that I feel attracted to. Maybe not forever, but just tomorrow I will allow myself this luxury of not having to eat up any fruit that might just go bad if I don’t eat it. I love myself enough to do it for just one day. Because one day of eating is all I have.

Since the beginning of my Alternative Fasting Experiment on each of my eating days I’ve been obsessed with the fact that I would not eat on the following day. But the following day is an illusion. And yet that’s what was causing me the most suffering. And that made me mess up the pleasure that I was entitled to get out of my eating days over and over again.


P.S. By the way to those who are interested in my ketosis measurements: today after 24 hour dry fast, I had a stick colored in between negative ketosis and trace ketosis. So, it seems that having durian as a last meal (it’s 30% fat) did not make a huge difference compared to juicy sweet fruit.

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05 Jul 2011 00:24 - 05 Jul 2011 01:27 #8165 by Yuliya
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Day 24 - Eating

My after-fasting weight - 118.6lb. Looks like my body finally restored back to my regular weight since I began it's experiment (between 118 and 120 lb) after the 2 day dry fast I did a week ago.

Today I enjoyed White Nectarines, Mulberries, 1.5 Honeydews, Korean Melon, Cantaloupe, Plantains, Baby Altaufo Mangoes, Coconut Water, Durian, a small amount of Baby Mixed Greens.

After breaking my fast with coconut water I did my morning push ups, etc, and ran 3.5 miles in a pouring rain. I got all soaked completely! That was a great celebration of the end of my dry fast :)

On a scale from 1 to 10 I would say that my level of enjoyment of my eating today was around 7.

I was trying to watch my behavior very closely and I made the following observations:

1) In the morning when I break my fast with coconut water and then have my first 1 or 2 meals - I enjoy them immensely and I feel outstanding both mentally and physically.

2) than later my hunger goes away, but I still feel that I didn't quite make up for the deprivation the day before. Besides I usually have some fruit laying around that I fantasized about during my fast. I end up eating again before my stomach is ready for the next meal and before feeling any hunger.

3) Later in the day I don't get a chance to develop hunger (since I kept eating since morning) and as a result regular low fat sweet fruits don't satisfy me any more and I start looking for something else to eat which would taste more fancy (either durian, or some vegetable mixture). Normally when I used to feel this way (no hunger and stomach not empty) before I began to fast so often, I would simply finish eating for the day and have a peaceful evening. But since now I know that on the next day I am going to fast again, I feel that I need to get everything I can out of today.

My conclusion is that this type of behavior is unavoidable for me during alternative day fasting. At least at the stage of attachment to eating where I am.

If Anne Osborne did not experience a similar pattern during the one year of her Alternative Day Eating, it tells me that:

1) Spiritually/Emotionally she was in a very different place. Perhaps partly because of her reasons to fast.

2) She went through 1 year of Alternative Day Fasting in 1997, and by that time she had been on 100% fruit diet for about 5 years or so. This must count for something :)

I am now wondering whether setting up a schedule of several mealtimes, which would ensure that I get hungry by the time of the next meal, would make my eating more enjoyable and satisfying, particularly in the afternoon and evening time. It might be that right now I am not capable of practicing absolute freedom during my eating days as long as I continue with my fasting.

Today I tried a new fruit called Korean Melon: [img]http://

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05 Jul 2011 18:32 - 05 Jul 2011 18:38 #8183 by Yuliya
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Day 25 - Dry Fast(July 4)

My energy was pretty low. I also felt rather thirsty.

I wonder if the low energy and thirst have to do with my last meal of durian. I heard other people saying that frozen Thai durian makes them feel thirsty, only they were not doing a dry fast after eating it...

Early in the day I started having a vague feeling of the possibility of a headache which increased in the evening.

Around 9pm I asked my husband if he wanted to go for a walk with me. He took me to a nearby park and we made a pretty large circle (more than 1/2 hour of brisk walking) in the dark. It was magical.

When I came home I listened to my painkiller music for a while and than went to sleep. On the next morning when I woke up the headache was gone and my head was very clear, even though my tongue was heavily coated.

After about 31 hour of a dry fast, I only had a trace ketosis.

My husband took a photo of me sitting in my meditation posture:


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05 Jul 2011 20:00 #8184 by Esmée La Fleur
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That was sweet of your husband to take you for a walk in the darkness.

You should keep a journal of what you eat and then see if any patterns develop for how you feel on your fasting days. I have heard from a lot of people that Thai durians give them problems, but Malaysian ones do not. I have never found a Malaysian one to try.

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06 Jul 2011 05:08 #8191 by Yuliya
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Esmee,

I LOVE Thai durian and I've never tried any other.
Right now I am having really difficult time with all this fasting and I am just trying to make it till 30 days (today is day #26).
Recently I was feeling increasingly depressed because of the constant fasting. Today I felt depressed almost as soon as I broke my fast. Durian helped me to feel a lot better.

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06 Jul 2011 06:14 #8193 by Milena
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I am wondering if the durian problem might have anything to do with where it's coming from and what they use to preserve the fruit during the travel. It might be the kind of preservatives that they use that cause people trouble.

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06 Jul 2011 06:37 - 06 Jul 2011 06:38 #8194 by Yuliya
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Durian comes frozen, that's how they preserve it.
I normally digest it very well when I don't mix it with other foods.
But it makes me a lot more thirsty if I dry fast after eating it.

Have you ever tried durian, Milena?
It has an 'acquired' taste.
People usually either hate it or love it.

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06 Jul 2011 06:58 - 06 Jul 2011 06:59 #8195 by Esmée La Fleur
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I do think it is the way the durian is being handled :evil: that is causing it to affect some people negatively. Even Anne Osborne has problems with it, and so does Jeff as I recall. Just something to be aware of. If it makes your feel better, then enjoy it to your heart's content. :P

I am sorry that you have been feeling depressed. :( I think it would probably do the same to me even if I had a really good reason like Anne apparently did. It would be very difficult for me to switch back and forth mentally from eating to fasting every other day. Your month is almost over and then you can take a breather and decide what you want to do next. :silly:

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06 Jul 2011 07:33 #8196 by Yuliya
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Thank you, Esmee :)

Yeah, I will just take it easy and make it a water fast tomorrow.

By the way, Jeff never tried durian because he only eats organic fruit.

I am really happy that I decided to eat durian today. It made me feel a lot better. It's like a chocolate for me :)

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06 Jul 2011 07:34 #8197 by Yuliya
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Day 26 (Eating)(July 5)

My after fasting weight was 119lb. It looks like durian is helping me to gain some weight or maybe it's just the weight of food in my intestines...

Today I had coconut water, lychees, durian (yum!), cherimoya, honeydew, cantaloupe, some mulberries.

Today I had a realization that as my experiment progresses I am actually getting more and more depressed. I think the reason is that in the first 2 weeks of the fast I lived in the anticipation of my body getting used to alternative day fasting and my fasting days becoming effortless and comfortable. I was so SURE that this would be my experience! I was VERY positive about the whole thing. But the month is now coming to an end and except for a couple easy days (that were an exception from the whole thing), "getting used to fasting" is nowhere in sight for me.

I noticed that before this experiment and in the beginning my eating days were like July 4th fireworks - colorful and exciting. Every cell of my body felt alive and excited about experiencing food and water and movement. I looked forward to my workouts. I was thrilled about my fruit.

Right now, I feel more and more tired during my workouts in the morning of my eating days and I don't really look forward to them that much. I don't feel happy on my eating days anymore at all. Recently I started getting depressed somewhere in the middle of my eating days, but today I started feeling REALLY LOW in the morning. Right after I finished my workout and satisfied my hunger, I got really depressed. Could hardly get down to work. I wasn't hungry. I did not want to eat anything. All I wanted not to have to be hungry and thirsty tomorrow.

After several hours of working and not eating, I decided to take out of the freezer a couple of durians. Since I am going to fast tomorrow, I might as well do whatever it takes to make myself feel a little better today.

I did not overeat today. Actually I didn't eat all that much and I now feel decent. And it wasn't hard. Durian satisfied me so deeply, that I didn't need to eat too much of it or to eat anything else on top of it.

Also I noticed that during my dry fasting days the contents of my colon get dehydrated and my elimination is coming out dry and slightly fermented ( I can tell by the smell which is not present normally for me). Today I actually didn't have any bowel movement in the morning and I know that it's not because I was empty. I think that this might be the reason why I am getting headaches during my dry fast. I am not used to food sitting in my intestinal tract and fermenting and all these byproducts being absorbed into the bloodstream.

I think a better way to do a dry fast would be if one only had liquids like juice or coconut water on the eating days. Or at least only melons. I am against colonics and enemas, so I think for me it would be the best to juice fast for a week before attempting a several days dry fast.

Ok, that's was a long rant.

Thank you everyone for reading and for your support. It's priceless.



P.S. Tomorrow I am doing a water fast. No more colon dehydration at this time.

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07 Jul 2011 20:26 #8250 by Yuliya
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Day 27 (Water Fast)(July 6)

Today I didn't have virtually any feeling of hunger whatsoever. It was a great relief. As if the Universe took a pity on me and allowed me some breathing space.

I did not have a bowel movement in the morning again (for the second day in a row). I am definitely seriously constipated. And I never ever get constipated on a low fat raw vegan diet (even if I eat durians).

When I woke up I had a groggy, hangover like, feeling. As if I had some cooked food yesterday. the same feeling as I had on my previous fasting day. I don't have this feeling when I wake up on the morning of my eating days, so it must be the result of the food that I ate yesterday. Was it the durian?

As I went through the day drinking water liberally the groggy feeling gradually lifted up.

But by the end of the day I developed a slight headache (I believe as a result of continued constipation). I went for 3.5 miles walk and then did Tai Chi for over 1 hours followed up with the rest of the detox cycle steps. When I was finished the headache was almost entirely gone.



My conclusion:

A combination of durians, hot and dry weather and intermittent dry fasting gradually made me seriously constipated. I believe that all my headaches are the direct result of the constipation. Now, I remember that in the winter time I experienced the same thing when I began eating steamed squash. After I had it several times in a row, my elimination became much more slow and difficult, and I began having headaches as well. It's not that steamed squash was so toxic, it's how it affected my elimination.

In the future I will only eat high water content fruits and coconut water before and after any dry fasting.

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08 Jul 2011 06:07 #8259 by Yuliya
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Day 28 - Eating (July 7)

My after-fasting weight was 118.6lb (even a bit lower than after my last dry fast - 119lb).

My ketosis in the end of the fast was between negative and trace.

I didn't have any bowel movement in the morning (for the 3rd day in a row today).

Today I had lychees, baby Altaufo mangoes, cherimoyas, coconut water, white nectarines (yum!), tomatoes, 1 small radish, baby mixed greens plain and with tomatoes - relished them!, in the very end I ate 1 avocado - plain as a monomeal. It was amazingly delicious.

I know that perhaps it wasn't the best idea to eat an avocado today on top of all the greens and considering my constipation, but I decided to have it for a good reason.

After tomorrow's water fast I am plunging right into an extended coconut water feast with some dry fasting days added to it. I am not quite sure about the details yet. I don't want to have a rigid plan, rather I want to listen for guidance from my body. I will start with one week of coconut water for sure. Than I will do some dry fasts, their duration limited of course by the fact that I am working, but I think the psychological factor of missing food will be a lot easier to overcome coming from coconut water feast compared to solid food. I also think that coconut water feast will allow me to become a lot more productive and focused at my job. Ideally I would like to stay on coconut water at least till the end of the summer, but I am going to be listening to my body and will come off it when it will feel right. The same with the fasts. I want to do some dry fasts (not sure when), but I will have them open ended with no set goal.

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09 Jul 2011 07:15 - 09 Jul 2011 07:18 #8269 by Yuliya
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Day 29 - Water Fast (July 8)

I had a beautiful fasting day today. Very little hunger and practically no cravings. My energy was good. My head was clear. No headaches.

My morning weight was 120.6lb.

My constipation began to clear away.

Exercise: 3 miles easy walk + over 1 hour of Tai Chi (slow form and static posture holding with weights).

So, it looks like 1 day fast does get easier eventually.

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10 Jul 2011 07:45 - 10 Jul 2011 07:46 #8292 by Yuliya
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Day 30 - Eating(July 9) - FINAL!!!

After fasting weight - 118lb (2 lb down from the day before).

Food: coconut water, white nectarines, white peaches, yellow peaches, a couple of cherries, black figs, mixed baby greens (plain), 1 green grape :), 1 small radish with dates, more dates with coconut water.

Exercise: Doing Laundry (in a laundromat) :)

Yesterday I had a peaceful and easy water fasting day, but late at night I got really hungry and irritable. I couldn't even sleep. The fact that my husband wasn't sleeping was not making me feel any better (or improving my relationship with him :( ). Eventually I got up and sat in meditation posture setting the clock for 1 hour. When I finished - I was able to fall asleep without any further nonsense.

In the morning I woke up feeling very hungry and thirsty (despite of drinking water the whole day yesterday), and a little weak. I definitely was not up to running or push ups or anything. Surprisingly my ketosis was between small and moderate (15 to 40 mg/dL) and this is after the water fast!!! Usually water fast or dry fast, but after 30-36 hours of fasting my ketosis is either trace or between trace and negative. Also, I thought that if my ketosis goes up, than my hunger should go down, but this time everything was in reverse. Yesterday I wasn't hungry during the day, but today I was starving!

As I wrote in one of my recent posts I had a serious intention of going on a coconut water feast after finishing my 30 days Alternative Day Fasting with the goal of hydrating my body and in the same time making my transitions to fasting days easier. It seemed like a great plan! But both yesterday and today I felt really bad about missing all the summer fruit. I thought about it over and over again. I was pretty confident that after this month of alternative day fasting, I got the willpower needed to go on the coconut water for a month or so, but I started seeing that if I do that it will make me utterly miserable.

I was still undecided and thinking about it for most of the day as I kept drinking coconut water. I felt ravenously hungry and I continued having low energy and slight muscle weakness. My thoughts kept going back to these amazing white nectarines that are now in season and how I am going to miss them all (they won't be here forever!). Most of the time I was able to divert my thoughts in other directions, but than the question kept popping up: was it worth it? Is going on the coconut water feast going to help my gum?

My last 2 fasts were on water, and today (after going through a water fast yesterday and drinking coconut water most of the day) I began feeling my gum again. As if it was getting slightly inflamed. This never happened after my dry fasts. It became obvious to me that as far as my gum is concerned, water fast is pretty much a waste of time for me. Only dry fasting is really 'doing it'.

I feel very fortunate and very grateful to Milena for sharing information and her own experience with dry fasting. As far as I understand it was Milena who really brought the information about dry fasting to this website. If I didn't learn about dry fasting, I would now be desperately doing water fasting and it would NOT work. And it would be very painful and frustrating.

So, eventually I decided that I should choose my battles wisely, and, given my current reason for fasting, going on coconut water does not worth all the misery that I will cause to myself. I went to the nearby supermarket and bought all the fruits that were screaming out to me, but first and the most important - Great White Nectarines.



The whole experience of buying and eating fruit today was incredible. In the supermarket I felt like a kid under the Christmas Tree, where all the presents were mine! I spent a ton of money too, but it was so worth it. After I ate all the fruit and greens that I cared for - I felt deeply internally satisfied and happy. Also, I felt a commitment building up in me: to do whatever it takes to move to the tropics.

Happy Fasting to ALL ♥ ♥ ♥

May compassion to yourself and all beings guide you in your eating, fasting, and lifestyle choices.

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10 Jul 2011 08:02 - 10 Jul 2011 08:05 #8293 by Esmée La Fleur
Esmée La Fleur replied the topic: Re: Alternative Day Fasting Experiment (Combined Water and Dry) on the Fruitaria
I think I will be joining you in the tropics. :P

Congratulations on the completion of your experiment. I agree that dry fasting is far more powerful than water fasting. I actually think that if you could manage to do 4 days in a row, you might accomplish more than you did with the month of alternate day fasting. Maybe you could consider doing this once a month, as your work schedule (and mental fortitude) allows. One of the great things about dry fasting is that you accomplish more in a shorter time and don't have to miss any of the seasonal fruits.

I so much appreciate you for directing me to this site, and I am also very grateful to Milena for sharing all of her knowledge and experience with us.

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10 Jul 2011 08:16 - 10 Jul 2011 08:17 #8295 by Yuliya
Yuliya replied the topic: Re: Alternative Day Fasting Experiment (Combined Water and Dry) on the Fruitaria

Esmée La Fleur wrote: Congratulations on the completion of your experiment.


Thank you, Esmee :)

So, do you still feel the effects of your 4 days dry fast on your digestion? Did you consider doing 1 36 hour dry fast weekly, or your 18 hour daily fast is working for you?

I'm afraid that until I truly eliminate the cause of my gum irritation, I will not be able to eat normally for more than a couple of days in a row even after 4 days dry fast.
Besides right now I really have to make it through the Festival.
I am really looking for the easiest fasting schedule that would enable me to get through the rest of the summer (Festival dates are August 18 to August 25).

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