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29 Mar 2014 16:56 - 29 Mar 2014 16:59 #21124 by kaypeeoh
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The Power of Habit, by Charles Duhigg makes the point that bad habits are forever. The mind cannot remove them. All that can be done is to form new habits to counter the old. So if my old habit is to eat a candy bar daily, the new habit to develop is reaching for an apple instead. Or NOT eating anything.

He makes the point that sometimes it's not food the person wants but something else that happens at the same time. One personal note was the author had gained a lot of weight because every day he left his desk to buy a muffin in the cafeteria. He eventually realized it wasn't the muffin he craved so much as the time spent gossiping with co-workers while having the muffin. His new habit was to walk from desk to desk catching up on the gossip during the midday. He still wanted the muffin but was able to avoid buying it every day.

Fasting can become a habit if done often enough. I know what will happen when I start a fast, what I will feel and what ultimately will cause me to break the fast. Right now I'm trying to integrate what I learned from the book with my fasting attempts. Everyone seems to start a new fast by proclaiming it here. But nobody hears from them when they break down in the second or third day of the fast.

So what is the new habit I have to create to keep from eating?

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29 Mar 2014 19:05 #21128 by TheFastDoctor
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Our dear Charles Duhigg needs to consider that at least some people have the ability to change. And fasting can be a powerful catalyst to help people break out of their coccoons and shackles of habit. But indeed some of the observations are very valuable, particularly if we can learn to replace something not by something else, but by nothing... that's where fasting is superior to all other habit changes.

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30 Mar 2014 04:25 #21131 by danielle
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Kaypeeoh,

You obviously missed the million posts I have made about breaking my fasts and failing at attempts :) Yes, habits are powerful. However, the mind is also powerful, as is the will of man. If you want something bad enough, you find a way.

"if we can learn to replace something not by something else, but by nothing... that's where fasting is superior to all other habit changes." Doc, this is ultra powerful. Something I am learning.. I was recently told how my mind always wants/craves something. Fasting is the way to put all desires aside.

Kaypeeoh, I think you have to get sick of desires enough, in order to truly crave nothing...a new way of being.

Take baby steps at loosening the grips of bad habits. Just try something new, even it is for an hour or two. Hopefully, the new will become the norm.

Best of luck!!!

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30 Mar 2014 16:05 #21142 by kaypeeoh
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The essential part of habit is the reward, according to the book. The urge is triggered, the reward is eating. Bad habits cannot be unlearned. Instead new habits can be learned that subsume the old habit. What's the reward for missing a meal? What's the reward for missing ten meals? For me the long term reward is finding my clothes fit better. But it's not always enough. This theoretical reward cannot always overcome the urge to eat. Our brains want the quick reward.

If anything, knowing I can drop weight quickly with a fast means I don't need to watch what I eat. I've done fasts since the mid 1970's; So I never learned to control my diet. I haven't created a new habit to cancel the old habit. Danielle, your 'million posts' suggest you haven't either. I'm not criticizing, just saying we're in the same boat.

Right now I'm dealing with the death of my uncle. My two daughters will graduate from college this Spring but don't have jobs set up. My wife is headed to Texas for the Final Four college basketball tournament. My car has broken down for the tenth time. All stressors that keep me wanting to eat anything and everything in the house.

kpo

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30 Mar 2014 16:26 #21144 by TheFastDoctor
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How about: The 10 meals I missed now is added on at where the end of my life otherwise would have been. You will have only so many meals in your life. Your life expectancy and your effective age is determined at least partly by how many is behind you and how many is left ahead of you.

But indeed death in the family, and family in general, deserves priority I agree...

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30 Mar 2014 16:44 #21147 by danielle
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KPO,

No, I have not overcome my own bad habits yet. I ate chocolate all week-end. I guess when we are ready, we will fast.

I really try to visualize myself in a few days, and how much better I'll feel. I believe the reward for missing meals is the benefit of better health, more energy/stamina, or just traveling into the unknown. I hear so many stories of magic and great spiritual happenings, or of just feeling more comfortable and relaxed. surely, this is a greater reward than chocolate. Still, I understand how hard giving up that quick fix is.

As far as your current problems/situation, I am sorry you are going through this. I will say, however, that there will always be a reason or justification for not fasting (at least for us weaker ones :) Wouldn't it be easier to deal with all the stress through a fast? Everyone says fasting makes everything easier, and your frame of mind/energy will be better. Just a thought...

I hope you and I can make some headway this week!

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31 Mar 2014 15:25 #21163 by kaypeeoh
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For me it's peanut butter, not chocolate, that draws me to the dark side. :-)

But yesterday I spent two hours in the gym followed by an hour in the steam room. It cleared my head and maybe removed some toxins.

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31 Mar 2014 15:28 - 31 Mar 2014 15:29 #21164 by Ockeghem
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Kaypeeoh,

Ditto on the peanut butter. When my family is having candy or some other treat, I'm usually having peanut butter. I love it!

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31 Mar 2014 16:48 #21167 by TheFastDoctor
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A South African company makes a peanut butter called Black Cat, which contains no chemicals at all.. just peanuts and peanut oil. This can be a very healthy food. Unfortunately most manufacturers add chemicals, including sugar, to their products. Do read the label.. if any words on the ingredient list twists your tongue, that ingredient will likely twist your gut...

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31 Mar 2014 17:29 #21168 by kaypeeoh
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Adams Crunchy sounds similar. I don't eat any other type.

www.livestrong.com/article/313104-adams-...ut-butter-nutrition/

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31 Mar 2014 17:38 #21169 by kaypeeoh
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BTW I added an avatar. That's me at the start of the Leadville 100 Mile Trail Race a few years ago. It starts at 3AM which is why I look half asleep.

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01 Apr 2014 18:36 #21176 by mhaiyarn76
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Thank you for sharing Kay!!

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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