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08 Nov 2014 05:41 #23935 by xjess
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Hiya :) i had a question about fasting, i havnt done one for years and have only ever really done that one (42 days) but am hoping too again if i dont fail at it!! Im just a bit over day one so far and its been easy except last night i had horrible dreams about eating and food which was torture! Anyway my question is about fluid intake, i HATE water so im drinking calorie free stuff like tea and low calorie stuff like coconut water etc, but im finding im not thirsty at all and feel extremely weak already but cant face drinking. Is this normal? and should i just force myself to drink?

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08 Nov 2014 11:22 #23936 by david
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Hello and a warm welcome to you xjess. Let me preempt the doctor and say that its best to listen to your instinct. So if your body feels thirsty then drink and if it doesn't then refrain. However be aware that some liquids such as tea etc might confuse the body's natural biofeedback mechanism.

Wishing you success :)

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08 Nov 2014 14:37 #23937 by TheFastDoctor
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Dear, dear Xjess, David's advice is full of wisdom, you'll do yourself a favour to heed that. Indeed the problem with any TASTE is that it tells the tongue you are eating and the tongue passes the message on to the brain. Then the brain "recalls" the intestine from its "holiday" to process what it believes you have eaten... thus from a purist perspective I don't advise any taste during a fast.

Many of us do not get thirsty during a fast, indicating that the body is producing adequate "metabolic water" from the fat which is, after all, saturated with Hydrogen. So no, I do not believe you should force yourself to drink, but you should offer your body water whenever you think it might accept it. Sometimes the body is also confused and does not know when it is thirsty!

André

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09 Nov 2014 02:41 #23940 by xjess
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Thanks guys! Omgosh i had the WORST night ever, i ended up vomiting horrible green/black stuff! (sorry i know thats not nice to post) due to a med that always makes me vomit when i first restart it, so that wasnt new, but its taken such an extreme toll all i feel like doing is crying and going to bed, but i want to sleep tonight so am trying to stay awake. Omg i really really hope my energy will pick up soon? i cant remember 2009 well, i remember going from hyper to beyond exhausted through the 42 days though. Im going to try to drink more, ile try water i just so badly hate it, like i Never drink it, i know thats bad! but it makes me feel queasy and am scared that it will lead to me eating due to trying to get rid of that feeling

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09 Nov 2014 03:29 #23941 by TheFastDoctor
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Resisting sleep, even in daytime, dear Xjess, "teaches" your mind to resist sleep. Such resistance is then often carried over to the "normal" sleeping time (night).

But please remember the principle: If you feel sick during a fast, that implies that whatever makes you sick must have been in you before the fast. You did, after all, not put anything into you during the fast... at least not something capable of making you so sick. Thus you are being made sick by something that needs to come out, not something you need to "take"...

This is why fasting is just the first step of detoxification: You must also eliminate the toxins liberated by the fast. I recommend the 5 steps of elimination activity to achieve this.

And, on the odd occasion, medicine may enable you to do this.

André

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09 Nov 2014 05:00 #23942 by xjess
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Thanks i will take a look at the 5 steps tonight. Thats actually a very interesting point about the sleep, ive had sleeping issues for years, really terrible insomnia, i now take melatonin which has helped a lot, but i often ride over my sleep at early evening when im actualy tired because i worry if i go to sleep too early ile be awake all night (tend to wake up about midnight and then am wide awake for hours if i sleep early) but i can fully see what you mean about over riding it at any point can mess up your natural cues for sleep. Ive just finished a massive exam for my psychology degree through uni on friday and that meant late night staying up etc, hoping to get back into a better sleep rhythm. Although right now im just miserable i cant have food, im not physically hungry i just want food, i think i use food to feel better as i have depression and usually eat more when depressed

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09 Nov 2014 16:28 #23944 by TheFastDoctor
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Indeed dear X, biologically ALL people have at least 2 episodes of sleep per cycle: In most cases one early evening and another one early morning. Food will not solve the problem unless you are underweight. When you do start eating again please consider having food with a low arousal effect; fruits, salads and pure vegetables are all associated with better sleep than dead animals. And do consider consciously skipping a night once in a while...

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10 Nov 2014 06:14 #23954 by xjess
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Thanks im vegetarian and have been for about 10 years =) due to love of animals, plus i think its much healthier, eg i never had an issue with iron stores without eating meat! I feel so pathetic saying this but i had to have some milk today and a small bit of custard, ive been so weak im unable to even stand for more then a few mins, ive slept all day and feel beyond weak, the food issue is okay as in i didnt eat due to caving about food, just this weakness and less then zero energy is horrible to say the least. im going to try to keep going even though i ate today, i figure its better to have something then entirely give up. but unless the energy picks up i cant keep doing this =(

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10 Nov 2014 08:26 #23956 by TheFastDoctor
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Once again, dear xJess, during the fast you do not put anything into you that can make you weak. Thus the weakness is caused by something that was in you before you stopped eating. You need to get it out... which is the function of the elimination cycles.

But sometimes indeed during a fast you sometimes "catch up" on sleep (some people catch up on wake time).. it's part of the restoration of balance. Ideally if you do decide to eat something then best is to build up to a balanced diet, then have a very fatty meal before embarking on the next fast... this initiates fat breakdown in your body so that it can continue during the fast.

Indeed consistent cycles of eating and fasting is in my experience better than isolated once in a while fasting.

André

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