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11 Feb 2012 13:45 #9967 by lovesolvesall
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Right now im doing the 80/10/10 diet and so far have noticed a HUGE change!! I cant wait to do it for like a year and see what changes I feel. Yah starting monday sounds good to me :) I have NO idea how i lasted 36 days before... ummm crazyyyy?! I think it was because I felt such a high and saw so many changes in my mind/body/spirit.. So I no it's all worth it.. Its just getting over that first hump

Keep going people who r still fasting!! We will be back with you in 2 days and by then u will have 2 more days down!! yah :)

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11 Feb 2012 14:27 #9968 by mhaiyarn76
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awwww! So who is still fasting? i lost track now? Cran? are you still fasting? wheni read the posts earlier i kind of felt lonely and sad, i enjoyed the company and support of every body in this thread that i dont want you guys to go!!! :) STAY!!! :D

Anywyas, so im at work tonight and just had a huge meal, mainly of tofu, salad and well, icecream!!! youre right Jimmy, it feels weird eating normally. kindda used to the idea of fasting.

OK so today Feb. 11, im officially on water fasting again..It feels so good to fast again (until i feel the cravings again that is...)

Who is with me right now... hope that when you guys start fasting again on monday you will come back here.. miss you all already! :)

@Loves, how long have you done the 80/10/10? what is that. i keep hearing about that esp wheh i visit the website on fruitarianism (hoping i will do after my fast).

ok then i will be here until you guys come back...

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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11 Feb 2012 17:10 #9969 by melissa09
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I will most definitely be fasting monday with you all!

Great job Jimmy! Six days is great! And good job to everyone, I'm so happy we have a group of people doing this together!

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11 Feb 2012 19:59 #9970 by Lisafast
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I ate too much yesterday I am dry fasting today until 6pm when I will be making a recipe my son requested. Everything I ate was whole grain and vegan but I simply ate too much. I'll be checking in daily whether I'm fasting or not.

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12 Feb 2012 05:44 #9973 by cranberrylime
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Day 3 – Feeling better today. Still weak and tired, but definitely better. My boyfriend is here. He built a fire in the fireplace and we’ve been watching movies. He’s very supportive, has probably read more than I have on the subject of fasting because he was worried that I was doing something a little too extreme. He doesn’t want to fast but he’s been very encouraging and helpful. He is the only one who knows I’m doing this fast. Everyone else in my life would be very skeptical and probably reprimand me. I’ll wait until I’m done and can show them the results.

I did get sick shortly after I signed off yesterday and the nausea hits me sometimes, but it’s nowhere near as bad as that first night. I still had a difficult time sleeping but I think it was because I was in bed so much of the day and my body’s just not used to that much inactivity. My lower back was hurting so I took a nice long, very hot bath with Epsom salts. That helped a lot. I’m also not as light-headed when I get up and walk around.

I’m reading the book Lisa suggested, “ How and When to Be Your Own Doctor”. I have always distrusted doctors and this book just adds fuel to the fire. I have close friends who have serious illnesses who won’t do anything without a doctor’s advice or approval. It makes me sick when I think of how society has put the AMA on a pedestal. I refuse to give money to cancer research because I believe they’re just using people as guinea pigs and really don’t care if they get better. I shouldn’t get on this subject though because I’ll be ranting for a long time about that money making machine they call ‘research’. If I ever get cancer, I will not allow them to poison my body. Enough said.

I’m convinced that this fast will help alleviate my arthritis so I’ll be sticking with it unless my body tells me otherwise. I’m surprised that I haven’t had any food cravings. I thought about having a carrot once, but it was just so I could crunch on something. Ice chips worked just fine.

I’ve started drinking an herbal laxative tea to try to ‘get things moving’ in my intestines. Don’t want to go through this only to find out there’s still a lot of garbage in there that’s being stubborn. Hope it works. I can’t afford colonics right now and I’m unsure about the safety of the SWF so I’m hoping this is the next best thing.

@ Jimmy – thank you for the encouraging words. And with your attitude, I believe you’ll get to your 22 days eventually (and without the doggie chew stick!). Keep up the good work. And I hope you enjoy your meal tonight with your family. My boyfriend and I ate nothing but healthy foods for two weeks before my fast and he’s decided to continue. He’s lost 17 lbs so far and feels great. Also, I’m a small person, but the way I’m built, I can’t wear those skinny jeans either, even when I’m at my thinnest (which was 96 lbs once).
Still got my mean gameface on … :angry:

@ Melissa – just so you know, I would NEVER have been able to do this if I had anything else to do but veg out on the couch. You did well to stick with it as long as you did. You didn’t disappoint, just made an adjustment to something going on in your life.

@ Lovesolvesall – yes! I highly recommend reading books and articles on the subject. They’ve helped me out immensely. Good choice of foods to break your fast! I do hope you’ll start again Monday. If not, join us whenever you can.

@ Lisa – Thank you again for the book recommendations. They’ve been exceedingly helpful. Enjoy your date night and thank you for your encouragement and wisdom. And yeah, my body’s detoxing big time but I’m sure that’s one of the reasons the RA had gotten really bad. I’m convinced that I’ll feel so much better afterwards. I’m only planning on doing 10 days but, if all goes well, I may do more. One day at a time …

@Mhaiyarn – I’m still here and going strong with only a little water and tea. I’m determined to do this because I want to feel better and prove to the doctors that there are better ways of dealing with disease than just throwing drugs at it. It might not be as quick and it might be more uncomfortable but in the long run, I know I’ll be glad I did it. I’ll be here and it sounds like the others will check in and be starting up again soon.

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12 Feb 2012 05:46 #9974 by cranberrylime
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Oops, sorry I wrote so much. BTW - has anyone heard from Ramblebee?

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12 Feb 2012 06:41 #9975 by Ramblebee
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Hey Guys,

Sorry about disappearing - good to see that you're all going really well and thanks for the concern about where I had gone!

I did end up getting really really sick and had to go to the one and only medical clinic on the Island where there was only one local doc. I could not even pick up a bottle of water, this is how bad it got - was dizzy ALL the time, blackouts, huge headache, felt like there were bugs crawling on my skin and biting me all of the time, my body hurt to touch - even if I were just pulling on a pair of shorts-, i couldn't move.. and basically I thought nope, this cannot be normal. So there was this one clinic on the other side of the Island so I get the resort staff to help me to get there.. This was on the day that I last posted. First I tried eating a bit of watermelon but oh boy, that was so bad, I could hardly bear it..

I dunno if the doc understood what I was doing (in terms of fasting) but he didn't seem to think that it was related. I ended up (despite this counteracting the detox) having to take a whole bunch of meds and haven't had the energy to even be on the computer. It was actually a really, really scary experience especially because the only way away from the Island to proper medical aid was via a 3-4 hour ferry ride, which I would not have dealt well with.

ANYWAY I'm feeling a lot better now, I've been trying to eat but I'm still not really feeling like it. I think I have taste aversion to watermelon, as well as pringles (these were suggested as a means of increasing my sodium intake)... I've just been eating fruit and omlettes basically.. also had some lollies for energy. All of these things obviously contradict the detox but I really needed to just focus on getting better. My family at home was really worried (my step-mum's a doc and also thought unrelated to fast) and were about to come over here.. I am REALLY grateful that I'm feeling better. Still got the runs and a headache but things are improving.

Don't be disheartened though, I think that the reason I got sick was unrelated. May have been a range of things, such as a parasite or infection getting into me (coz I am in a tropical climate, germs breed quicker and my body would've been in a state of weakness), bird flu, sodium deficiencies or bad water (despite drinking bottled water who know what was in it, no ingredients and I AM in Thailand!) OR perhaps my body was just super super dooper toxic and I got extra bad symptoms? I dunno but I've had various illnesses before (glandula, pneumonia) and this was a much worse..

Really good to see such a good support network here!!! And so lovely that you guys were looking out for me :)

I'll keep checking up on how you're all going but I'm going to try to focus now on getting myself healthy by eating what I can, focussing on wholesome foods :)

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12 Feb 2012 07:06 #9976 by lovesolvesall
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@Loves, how long have you done the 80/10/10? what is that. i keep hearing about that esp wheh i visit the website on fruitarianism (hoping i will do after my fast).

80/10/10 is 80% carbs from fresh raw fruit and some raw veggies, 10% protein and 10% fat. After my last 36 day fast (which was back in September/October) I started to eat completely differently. I was on the candida diet (all meat/fat/and cooked veggies.. no fruit what so ever) So when I went on the fast I kept on reading how to break the fast.. and the only answer was FRUIT!! Soooo when I ended my fast my diet consisted mostly of fruits and veggies some fish etc.. I continued with that but was still not at 80/10/10... I saw major improvement getting off the candida diet and eating only RAW foods... Sooo a few weeks ago I started eating cooked sweet potatoes w/ lots of butter etc.. Immediately I noticed I felt crappy and my skin started breaking out again.. So After my fast last week I have been doing completely raw again but with tons of avocados so still not 80/10/10.. But the past 2 days I actually bought Dr. Grahams book and have been doing a strict 80/10/10.. So I notice a difference in two days? Yes!!! My energy levels are off the wall I ran 43 minutes today and worked out hard core for an hour. And still have tons of energy.. I feel better.. My skin looks better.. So I am going to stick with 80/10/10 as much as possible. I will probably have a couple days a month where I cheat and have a cooked sweet potato w/ butter, maybe some raw or cooked salmon, but other then that I love this diet!! I don't plan to cheat any time soon at least. I just feel and look so much better.. I actually look healthy and my skin is clearER then it has been over the past 2 years..

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12 Feb 2012 08:30 #9978 by Lisafast
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Hey everyone! I'm doing a fast right now, that will last until after my run tomorrow, at which point, I'm going to have a fruit meal and a smoothie and then begin my 36 hour dry fast on Monday, from 7pm sunday until 7am Tuesday. I'm going to take off on Tuesday, because it's one of the few weeknight evenings I'm home to eat with my family. Besides, I'm probably going to make something special for Valentines Day for my sweetheart. Then Wednesday is going to begin my longer fast, From 7pm Tuesday night until 7pm Friday night. I plan to check in every day so let's keep this topic going!

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12 Feb 2012 08:36 #9979 by Lisafast
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@Cranberry, Since you're reading How and When to be your own doctor (I am to, re-reading, this time on the kindle, which is much better than on the computer) there is a section on colon cleansing and she tells a way to use a $3 enema kit to do nearly as well as a colonic. Basically, you fill up the bag and your colon twice. Skip ahead to that part. It does help. I know Andre' doesn't recommend enemas, but the author does and she's tried fasting patients both ways. Personally, I don't enjoy doing an enema, but it really makes me feel better.

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12 Feb 2012 11:36 #9980 by Jimmy2Fat
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Hi Everyone,

Really enjoy all the comments! It's so crazy how much I am looking forward to fasting again)!! Monday will be my day 1. Like Lisa, I'm going to keep checking in here every day even if I'm not fasting.

@cran, WOW! 3rd day on your first fast?! Took me three attempts to hit day 3, I'm going to use that as my inspiration when I start up on Tuesday night. YOU ARE DOING GREAT!!!!

@Ramblebee, we are sending good karma your way, hope you beat that bug soon.

@Everyone, let's keep this group together, what a unique gift for all of us :)

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12 Feb 2012 17:41 #9983 by mhaiyarn76
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@ jimmy... i agree lets keep this group ..I feel that we have bonded a lot and it fels so good to have the support that you guys give!!! Lets keepthe thread going.. and going and going....

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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12 Feb 2012 17:45 #9984 by mhaiyarn76
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Btw, lisa regarding the salt water flush..it has always worked for me andi like coz after 2 episodes , you wonthave the urrge to go anymore and no cramping either unlike the herbal teas i took. but to be honest i dont really feel taking it every day esp if after a dry fast or even water fasting, bec we lose too much sodium from our body during water fast , that i feel it when we drink the SWF our body might just absorb some ofthe salt we drank...NO LIKE!

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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12 Feb 2012 17:47 #9985 by mhaiyarn76
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@ loves, did you lose weight on the 80/10/10? will look into that book..got me intrigued!!! esp if it helped you lose the weight..did it?

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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12 Feb 2012 17:54 #9986 by mhaiyarn76
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@ cran, i agree with you regarding some docs. I dont trust them either... they just give you medications to cover the symptoms and not cure the actual cause of the symptoms...although i dont want to say that all of them do that..but mostof them do. I believe that our bodies can actually heal itself if given a chance to.
me too, some water and black coffee...dont want to go cold turkey, i feel drinking coffee (mild) is my comfort but will eventually remove that from mine diet..need to..:)

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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12 Feb 2012 19:21 #9988 by Ramblebee
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Pretty much all better! (Touch wood) Met up with some friends from Aus today here and we had a lovely Thai meal. Im not gunna describe what I ate for the sake of those trying to keep their minds off food. BUT it's stayed in my stomach which I'm happy about!

@ loves, @mhaiyarn, I'm really interested in the 80/10/10 diet as well! Was it hard to stick to? I'm almost vego (just love the smoked salmon and turkey mmmm so good)

@lisa - in your last 10 day fast, what was the sickest that you felt?! Just interested. Also, I read through your earlier posts (when you were fasting) and I can't believe you managed to still run! That's amazing!
And anyone else who got sick?!

@jimmy - defs keep it going! This is a great way to keep on track!

Does anyone make 'green shakes' often? And has anyone ever GROWN wheatgrass? Before I left it was my birthday and my mum got me this great blender - I've recently moved out - so when I get back I'm gunna get right into these!

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13 Feb 2012 00:03 #9990 by Jimmy2Fat
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@mhaiyarn, agree about the SWF, definately works for me. If it doesn't then the see salt/water ratio must be off. I read it removes good bacteria as well as bad, so I wouldn't do it more than once per week of fasting, just to get that stuff pushed out of our system since food isn't being processed to push it out.

@cran, how is your day 4 going? Keep strong, I believe in you and keep that mean face on!!

@All, I'm preparing for a difficult day 1 tomorrow and to continue working on teaching my body to desire food responsibly. Now that I'm more in tune, I realize my body seems to be never satisfied, makes me want to eat all the time. Wasn't like this when I was younger. Over the years I taught it to be bad, now it's time to teach it to be good again. School is in and class starts tomorrow!! :)

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13 Feb 2012 00:47 #9991 by cranberrylime
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Day 4 – Feeling much better. Actually able to get up and do a few small things. I had a few minor bouts of nausea and an intense headache a few times this morning. But they’d go away when I would lie down for a little while. Last night I didn’t sleep well, mostly because the muscles in my legs were really bothering me. I kept feeling like I needed to rub them or stretch them. Also, several hours after drinking that herbal laxative tea, my body eliminated stuff that was flat, black and like nothing I had ever seen before. I’m guessing that’s a good thing. Sure don’t like the crampy feeling that comes along with it though. (Sorry if I’m too graphic.) Still no cravings. Very happy about that.

Right now I’m sitting in front of a fire and enjoying the warmth. It’s only 25 degrees out but I used to live in Maine, where I’ve heard it’s below zero this weekend. I lived there for 31 years and have experienced 36 below temps where I couldn’t start my car to go to work in the morning. I don’t miss that at all! Not much shoveling to do in Virginia either whereas the snow banks in Maine would, more often than not, tower over my head.

@ Loves - 80/10/10 is 80% carbs from fresh raw fruit and some raw veggies, 10% protein and 10% fat … that sounds like something I could get into! Thanks for sharing. I think I’ll check that out.

@ Lisa – Thanks for the enema information, I’ll definitely look into it.

@ Jimmy – Thank you. But, just so you know, there are a few things that have made it easier for me. I am frustrated and a little angry with the doctors who are determined to put me on medications that have a long list of side effects. This is how I’m choosing to deal with that frustration/anger and, I’m equally, if not more, determined to show them that it can be done without synthetic, destructive, expensive medications. So, I don’t care how miserable I get, I’m going to do this and prove them wrong. I’ll have to go back to work in the spring so I have to do this now because my job is physically very demanding and I won’t be able to do it then. Judging from your posts, I’m guessing my eating habits prior to this weren’t as bad so I don’t have that obstacle either. I also have the advantage of being basically by myself. Apart from an occasional movie on DVD, I don’t watch TV, so no food commercials. I can put all food away somewhere so it’s out of sight. I don’t have to cook for anyone and, for a little while, I can lie on the couch and be miserable all by myself without causing people to worry about me and tell me I should eat something. If anyone had seen me the second and third day, I think there would have been a great deal of concern. It’s hard to do this with all of the stimulus around us nowadays. Keep at it, get that look of determination - mean game face on and attack! You can do it. Losing an occasional battle or having to adjust your tactics isn’t losing the war. Not picking yourself up and pressing on is. But a war isn’t something you want to just jump into. Prepare yourself like the military does, mentally and physically. Read what you can about the subject and eat clean and healthy when you’re not fasting. Good luck and keep posting!

@ Ramblebee – Sooo glad you’re feeling better. Yes, I’ve been pretty sick. But this is my very first fast of any kind so I’m hoping it won’t be the same the next time around.

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13 Feb 2012 07:19 #9993 by lovesolvesall
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mhaiyarn76 wrote: @ loves, did you lose weight on the 80/10/10? will look into that book..got me intrigued!!! esp if it helped you lose the weight..did it?



I didnt really lose weight on this diet because I started it after my 36 day fast so I was already very skinny. With out indulging in avocados I am 5' 5' and around 114. When I indulge in more fat my weight goes up to about 122ish. So I guess you could say that I am at my ideal weight when I stick strictly to 80/10/10 and run about 30 minutes to an hour of cardio everyday. I cant believe it today I ran an hour for the first time ever! I never get tired anymore on this diet and feel like I could run for hours at a time! It's weird because I use to get tired after 15 minutes.
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13 Feb 2012 07:26 #9994 by lovesolvesall
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Ramblebee wrote:
@ loves, @mhaiyarn, I'm really interested in the 80/10/10 diet as well! Was it hard to stick to? I'm almost vego (just love the smoked salmon and turkey mmmm so good


Well I haven't really stuck to it 100% yet. I keep sneaking raw tuna/salmon and sometimes cooked. Sometimes I just crave fish. But I would say i'm on it 90-100% I just have my days where I cave and eat fish or to many avocados. Other then that no it's not hard to stick to. After a long fast truthfully I cant put anything toxic in my body anymore. The thought of chewing gum grosses me out when before the fast I would chew a pack a day. Soo.. I guess I was just so healthy after the fast I wanted my health to continue. I am really loving 80/10/10 right now and all I can see are the benefits.

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