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08 Feb 2012 19:50 #9871 by Lisafast
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I have been enjoying all the help and encouragement from this thread. Even though I failed miserably. I did fast for exactly 24 hours (dry) on Monday, but then on the way home from work, I couldn't stop thinking about food. And so I ate...and ate. Oh, it was better than sex, except there were regrets the next morning LOL. So on Tuesday, it was my day off and what did I do? I bought a panini press to go with my grill pan. Needless to say, I panini'ed myself into a stupor. Then I punished myself for over eating by doing an enema. Ah,nothing says love like cleaning out the colon! And soaked in the bath for several hours, adding hot water as needed. Technically, I had wanted to fast for the week, but I was satisfied with the intermittent fasting that I was doing (Monday, Wednesday, and Thursdays were fast days) so that's what I'm doing right now. I'm 15 hours into a dry fast. I went for a run this morning. I let the group get ahead of me and just ran slowly by myself, meeting up with the rest of the runners at the end. If I run like that, I can run AND fast. IF I can run and fast, then I don't mind fasting for longer than just Wednesday and Thursday.

I know it's just a matter of getting past those first couple of days. I've done it very recently, actually, so what is the problem? I guess I'm having some motivational issues. But I really liked the results from my recent fast and I have to fast until I get those results again. Plus, I want my flat belly again. I don't understand why I am so binge-eating prone right now. I usually don't have a problem with that. So I'm back to day one again. But this time, BEFORE I give in and eat, I'm going to force myself to read all the blogs and the recent forum topics and see if it changes my mind or helps with the motivation.

Thanks and congratulations to everyone who is fasting. You have gotten through the first few days. I am going to get out Paul Bragg's book about fasting. He recommends the ACV and I do have their brand of it, but I'm not going to use it unless I really need it. I want to reread the book because it inspires me about how much exercise he gets while fasting.

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08 Feb 2012 21:04 #9875 by mhaiyarn76
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Hello everyone ,

I'm on dry fast now. Started midnight last night. Still in bed. Boy! Last night was weird. Imy sleep was very shallow. Kept waking up. My dreams were weird, not happy for sure.. Last night there were just numerous times that I wanted to eat, even in my sleep. Tank God I didn't. So nw I'm happy. Hope I make it through oday...

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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08 Feb 2012 21:12 #9876 by mhaiyarn76
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Hi ramble... My fast before for 2 weeks weren't supervised. I do feel the same thing esp when I'm working. So don't get up or stand up fast. Your movement should be slow coz by now ur blood pressure will be low. Makes u prone to lightheartedness and slightly blocking out. No vigorous activities. Just relax and take ur time. ;)

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)
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09 Feb 2012 00:45 #9877 by Jimmy2Fat
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It's around noon now (I do NOT refer to it as lunch time thank you!). It's day 4 and I feel the best ever. The first few days even when I felt good, there was this underlying feeling .. not exactly hunger but like my body was consuming itself. Today, to my surprise, I don't feel that, I feel normal. I'm not sure if it was all that ACV I drank last night, being day 4, or combination. How much ACV do you guys put in a glass? Does the brand matter? I used a cheapo store brand that I had in a plastic jug in the pantry. If the ACV is to account for putting off these cravings, then it is definately fantastic. I look in the mirror and still see a big fat belly. What I am looking forward to is when I see someone and without telling them I fasted for them to say "wow you lost weight!!" ... hasn't happened yet .. but I'm determined to make it happen.

@Lisa, glad to see you post in this thread again!!! You have already proved in the past you can do anything you want to when your mind is set! Failure on any specific time doesn't matter. I failed on day 2 on my first attempts, this is my first success going since I am on day 4 and feeling fine! So, what are your exact goals this time?

@ramblebee, as far as carrying that heavy pack, can't you pay someone to carry it for you? I have traveled in that part of the world before and usually in the poorer countries you can find a couple guys that will be more than happy to make some cash carrying a foreigners bag.

@mhaiyarn, I too was a nighttime eater ... not just snack though, full meals (that "s" added onto the word meal was not a typo). I know from a purist standpoint having to take benedryl to sleep is not good. But the big fat ape I am, I am able to see the forest through the trees and as far as I'm concerned, if it's not food and I will it if I HAVE to.

Well I'm off to the bathroom, if no one is in there I will stand in front of the mirror and examine my belly from different angles and then grab a big two big handfulls for a second. Don't know why, but it's something that I do.

It isn't exactly that we CAN do it, but now it is we ARE doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STAY STRONG AND OUTLAST THE WAVES WHEN THEY COME!!!!
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09 Feb 2012 01:01 #9879 by Jimmy2Fat
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Oh ... two things I forgot to mention. I'm pushing 50 now, but when I was in my 20's .. perhaps as far as early 30's, I would get a cold sore in the same place on my lip. Haven't had that for over 15 years .. to my surprise, I woke up with it, same spot. Could this resurgence of this past cosmetic horror be brought on by fasting?

I also don't recommend gulping down the large amount of ACV I did, unless you are about to cave. The after effects of that lasted hours (but with OVERALL positive effect). It also, cleaned out my colon. Now not necessary to do the 'salt water flush' I was planning on, it works if you get the right amount of sea salt in the water. Once one of you replies with the amount of ACV you put in a glass, that's what I'll use on a semi-regular basis at night ...

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09 Feb 2012 01:02 #9880 by Jimmy2Fat
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Last thing .. so weird when i think of this being just 4 days. Seems like I have been fasting and known u guys for a LONG time LOL :)

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09 Feb 2012 01:35 #9883 by cranberrylime
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How is it going? What are you experiencing? I'm new to this but will be starting a 10 day water fast tomorrow.

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09 Feb 2012 02:05 #9884 by cranberrylime
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I've read this whole thread and value what's been said so far. I know I'm a little late but ... mind if I join your group? I could really use the support.

I have rhuematoid arthritis and want to try to deal with it without drugs. I recently started seeing a wonderful Naturopathic Doctor since I chose not to go on the 4 different types of drugs the 'other' doctor wanted to put me on. I have off work for 2-3 weeks so I figured it's a good time to do something like this. For the past two weeks I've been eating a very low carb diet and drinking plenty of water. Though I know it's going to be rough, I'm hoping that will help with the first few days. Had a severe headache the first couple of days, probably because I was no longer eating all that chocolate and other sugar-laced things.

Any helpful tips, advice, sarcastic remarks and humor will be very much appreciated.

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09 Feb 2012 03:01 #9885 by Ramblebee
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@cranberrylime - of course not! Welcome :) :) Good to have you here! Goodluck with your first few days, you're gunna do great! And it really helps being on here and having a support group!

@mhaiyarn - thanks for the suggestion and the advice - I think that I will get someone to carry my pack. How strange are the dreams that you have when you're fasting. I too have had these experiences, where I've wanted to eat SO bad. Although they subsided after two days, now the mere thought/sight/smell of food makes me feel very sick.

@Jimmy - YAY for feeling great! That's awesome news! The weight will go! I know the feeling, it is so satisfying when someone says that to you. And I feel as though it's been a long time as well!!

So I am now halfway through day 6 (it's early morning and I've been awake pretty much all night. I am SO sick - I dunno if it's because I have had glandular in the past (about 3 years ago when finishing school) but I have swollen glands, am nauseous, have a fever, massively sore joints, stabbing pains in my stomach and a headache. I actually cannot remember the last time I've felt this bad. Mentally I'm feeling okay. Since I've began the fast I'm not sure how much weight I've lost (I dont have a scale) but i think I've lost a fair bit, my ribs are starting to show :/. Maybe I'm feeling this bad because I have a super fast metabolism, I dunno. I'm only 20 and usually if I simply eat relatively healthy (maybe one treat a day) I'll drop like 3 kilos in a week... My tongue was really white yesterday but feels less white today.

I'm going to end the fast on day 7 and eat watermelon and drink juice, and eventually introduce some steamed vegies. I'll keep posting my observations. If I don't get better by day 10-12 I may see the doc, coz there is a chance I am just a bit sick from the water here (It's bottled but I don't know how 'pure' it is as such).

Goodluck with each of your consecutive days!!

Keep going guys!

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09 Feb 2012 03:08 #9886 by Ramblebee
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@ Cranberrylime, And despite my massive essay about my sickness, I've felt good for the fast, so don't be disheartened!

In terms of hunger, it's difficult for the first few days and if you can get through day 3 you'll be gold :) Particularly because you've already weaned yourself off sugar!

I also think it's good that you're being supervised (or atleast have access) to the Naturopath.
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09 Feb 2012 04:22 #9887 by mhaiyarn76
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@ jimmy its actually 1-2 tsp of ACV in a glass of distilled water..and it should be UNPASTEURIZED, so you can also benefit from the mineral that its has...

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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09 Feb 2012 04:27 #9888 by mhaiyarn76
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Hello Cranberry!!! WELCOME!!! so glad you can join us! its more bearable to fast with a group support each other!

regarding your arthritis , you might want to read this website..

www.buzzle.com/articles/apple-cider-vinegar-and-arthritis.html

Its about the Apple cider vinegar and its benefits to the body esp arthritis.

You can do this Cranberry!!! a little struggle here and there but if you commit to it, you can do it...(thanks to lisa for telling me this)

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)
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09 Feb 2012 04:48 #9889 by Jimmy2Fat
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@cranberrylime Welcome!!!I echo Ramblebee's sentiment about gettting past day 3. In that vein, I can offer advice which worked for me: Get in a war mentality, get a game face on and make it MEAN!!!!! The first and especially the second day you can be hit by a fearsome enemy attack of hunger out of nowhere ... expect it, wait for it, and be prepared. I only survived by having an arsenel of weopons handy. I posted them earlier but again: real lemon juice (just a squirt in green tea or seltzer water), real green tea (get lose kind at aisan grocery store), and my most recent powerful aquired weopon .. apple cider vinegar to mix in water. When the hunger hits, utilizing these weopons can be a life saver. When that hard hunger hits, and I'm sure it will ... rely on what lisa posted which is it comes in waves and fades. It's true. Use your weopons, and it will subside.

I'm only on day 4 and my body so far seems to have adjusted. So, remember when it gets tough, it will get easier if you don't give up!!!!!!

Glad you are with us, post a lot!!!!! Never give up, I failed twice on day 2, but this time I'm doing it!!!!


@ramblebee, are u serious, you can see your ribs? The only time I have seen ribs in the last 15 years is when they were covered in barbeque sauce right before they went in my belly.

The bottled water should be safe there, but realize the ice is made with local water, so if you had ice in any of your drinks that could be the cause. It's good you are being cautious about your health symptoms,especially since you are in a third world country. I wish you well my friend and keep posting your story!

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09 Feb 2012 04:55 #9890 by Jimmy2Fat
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@mhaiyarn, one to two tablespooons huh? Well I certainly over did it LOL :) Checked the jug I have and it doesn't say that it's pasteurized so I hope it's not ... Either way, I'll stick with the one I have since today has been "easy"and I don't want to ruin it by going into enemy territory (grocery store).

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09 Feb 2012 04:57 #9891 by mhaiyarn76
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ok so today..im struggling..its hitting me...i thik i just exhausted my glucose coming from outside source , im feeling very very weak and very vulnerable right now...my mouth slightly dry, im Craving as in CRAVING! craving specifically for toffeed peanuts which i have in my drawer... my ketones as of this am was mild,...dont know now...
wanna get passed this...

i will turn on the foodnetwork and just pretend im eating...mmmmm...im in the mood for burgrs! ok man vs food it is!!! :woohoo:

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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09 Feb 2012 04:59 #9892 by mhaiyarn76
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@jimmy, NO 2 teaspoons!!!! not tablespoons... BUT you know what..im not really following that, im just pouring it as you are and depending on what i cantolerate thats the amount i drink. the more sour it is the better but not too much that it will cause hyperacidity..but hey if i get hyper acidity, ALKASELTZERs always there!!!

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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09 Feb 2012 05:02 #9893 by mhaiyarn76
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hi Ramble..Wow day six for you ...good job! im so jealous! and smell of food makes you sick?! mm..Wish i had hat!! LOL..
yeah if you feel so sick i think its a good idea to stop at day 7...as long as youre cautious with your refeeding...but watermelon idea sound DELISH!!!! I WANT ONE!!! LOL

" I dont have a soul...I AM A SOUL, I HAVE A BODY" by India.Arie :)

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09 Feb 2012 05:04 #9894 by cranberrylime
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Thank you Jimmy! I love your advice, especially the game face ... or the MEAN game face - Grrrrr!

I have the ACV and some lemons but I don't have loose green tea. I've got Stash green tea. I also have books to distract me. Fortunately, my children are all grown up (there's 5 ... 6 including my new daughter-in-law), on their own and I live by myself (I do have a roommate, but she cooks for herself, our paths rarely cross since we usually work opposite hours) so I don't have to cook for anyone. My biggest concern is going to be boredom. I'm sure I'll be reading a lot and checking in often. Thanks again!

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09 Feb 2012 06:11 #9895 by Jimmy2Fat
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@mhaiyarn, just read your post about you CRAVING! DONT GIVE IN!!!!!! Food network .. you kill me with that, that's the LAST thing I would do. If all else fails, pour a glass 25% ACV with water like I did (by ignorance - but hey isn't that how most knowledge is gained?), it will make your gums bleed vinegar BUT IT WILL RESET YOU! DO NOT GIVE IN, DO WHAT I SAID IF YOU HAVE TO AND IT WILL GO AWAY!!!!!! HOLD THE LINE!!!!!

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09 Feb 2012 06:41 #9896 by Lisafast
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This forum topic is so great...because of the great people on here. Welcome Cranberrylime. We are happy to have you join us. I'm a little envious that you don't have kids making savory smelling foods at all hours of the day, like I do. I just keep retreating to the bathroom and filling up the bathtub. Arthritis responds very well to fasting from what I've read. Have you read Joel Fuhrman's Fasting and Eating for Health? It has a chapter on arthritis. I borrow it from the library every year or so. There are also some great fasting books for free on the Kindle (you can download a free app to read kindle titles). And quite a few for like a buck or so.

Jimmy, you crack me up. I'm so glad you're part of this thread. You have kept me going. It's good that we can all share our successes as well as our slip ups. I think you are over the worst of the fast. You should feel a little better each day.

I'm going to try to keep fasting past tomorrow night. I'd like to fast and still go to my runs and see how that works out. But I have good food in the fridge and I'll have to pretend I don't. I wanted to weigh myself after my bath but my husband had already gone up to bed and I didn't want to be obvious about it. I ate a lot of food in a short time and my belly is STILL a little distended. Why would I do that to myself?

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