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25 Aug 2011 20:56 #9025 by Christian144
Christian144 replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
Good afternoon Kristina,

I looked at this, what you have shared is really interesting. Hearing how the gut, plays a role with the brain is some real food for thought. Wish I had seen this, a few months ago. Their was a woman, on a raw food forum called, Give it to me raw, who said her son could not be cured from autism on a healthy diet. Said mentally ill people, like me could, but not people with her son' issue. It was really sad to hear this. Nothing worse then no hope..

But it is people like you, who will make the difference, in changing this idea, for them..

I have heard of diet helping, with mental illness, but must confess my knowledge is limited..

Thank you, for letting me know. :) I will get the book. I want to learn as much as I can on how to eat, what to eat, and when to eat, etc. Being sick is, after 20 years, a thing I am totally "sick" of being..

I am happy to report, that (dry) fasting is really, helping..
With this: The more I know about the diet aspect, in connection, the more I'll improve, in my food choices for healing.. as well.

I will look thoroughly through these links, and read the book when I can get it..

May God bless you for showing me this. All my best!

Sincerely,
Joseph

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26 Aug 2011 00:28 - 26 Aug 2011 00:29 #9026 by kania0512
kania0512 replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
Hi Joseph,

I am so glad you received the information positively. I did not want to come across like I was trying to push things on you. I do hope you will find it informative and more so, that it will help you with your illness. I think the reason fasting help is that much like with the GAPS diet, it starves out the "bad bugs".

Praying for continued healing for you.

Kania

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27 Aug 2011 05:45 #9027 by Esmée La Fleur
Esmée La Fleur replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
Another diet that has been really helpful for kids on the autism spectrum is The Body Ecology Diet by Donna Gates. She basically recommends a low sugar diet, comprised of 80% leafy greens and non-starchy vegetables (no sweet fruits, but few low sugar fruits are allowed) and lots of fermented foods (ferment vegetables and coconut water kefir in particular), and a small amount of animal products, and a few alkaline grains (millet, quinoa, and amaranth) and one acid grain (buckwheat). Again, she is operating off the premise that the mental imbalance is due to gastrointestinal dysbiosis (too many bad microforms: yeast, fungus, microbes, parasites, etc). It is a very interesting and worthwhile read.

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28 Aug 2011 00:05 #9030 by Christian144
Christian144 replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
Kania, that makes sense, I agree, with you..a good diet, and fasting, does for both seem to be a great way to kill off, the bad things, affecting the body.

I am grateful for your help. Only knuckleheads fall to appreciate it when others take the time to help them. When folks, like you care, and take the time to show it, it is something, that matters, to people like me.

Thanks, I need prayers and think God is listening..
Dry fasting, seems to be working.

Many kind wishes..

Joseph

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28 Aug 2011 00:20 #9031 by Christian144
Christian144 replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
That is pretty neat, Esmée. Like you, I have had issues with digestion. Maybe, my mental illness, and my damaged stomach are playing a much stronger role then I thought. What you and Kania are sharing, makes for much research and review.
I'll add this book, to my list of reading too. Right now, I am on Paul Braggs, diet.
Mostly, at any rate, which is 75 percent raw, rest health vegan. But I do want to find the best diet out there for me.
I already do drink coconut water, but did not know that there was coconut water kefir. Googled this, and found a place to get it where I live. So, I'll start using that. Got the quinoa, for after the fast as recommended..
I'll dig into this book, look forward to reading it and the book that entails the GAPS diet information.

Real weak, especially, with the dry fasting I am doing right now. But when I am able, I will begin reading both these books. Thank you Esmée for giving me this information.

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28 Aug 2011 00:32 #9032 by Esmée La Fleur
Esmée La Fleur replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
You can order water kefir grains from The Kefir Lady www.kefirlady.com/ for $20 and then you can make your own coconut water kefir from the water of fresh young coconuts. this is what i have started doing and it is VERY easy. each batch takes about 36 hours. I would send you some of mine, but I just got started and don't have enough extra to share yet.

water kefir grains are also known as tibicos en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibicos

and the cultured vegetables are very easy to do as well. just grind up cabbage in a food processor as fine as possible, add a little water to make a smooth mixture, but not soupy, and then put into a 1 quart canning jar, leaving 2 inches at the top, cover blended veggies with a piece of whole cabbage leaf, so no air touch the blended veggies, then screw the lid closed and let sit for 7 days on your counter. presto! you have home-made no salt sauerkraut. refrigerate. will last for a long time, but it is recommended that you eat 1/2 cup with every meal.

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28 Aug 2011 03:29 - 28 Aug 2011 03:36 #9036 by Christian144
Christian144 replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
This is all very new to me. Don't know much about kefir, in coconut or cultured veggies, or their benefits. But from what I have seen and heard.. The probotic's in these items, seem to play a important role, with the body and digestive track. I look forward to finding out about this more in study. You have peaked my interest. Thanks for sharing the links with me. And for telling me about this. :)
I also appreciate the offer to share, if you had, had enough. :cheer:
It is so amazing that you care so much about helping others, like me, despite the fight you, are personally undertaking as well. I have to confess, I am to focused on my own needs, and in getting better, to take the time, to help people, like you are in helping me. It says alot about you, that you do, what you are doing.

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28 Aug 2011 07:59 - 28 Aug 2011 08:00 #9037 by borota
borota replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
Esmée, like Christian here, I feel indebted to you. I learnt so much from you, thank you.
Today I brought my fresh coconuts from Whole Foods, I have absolutely no issue with the water they contain, on the contrary, I feel very good after drinking it. You probably remember I was not feeling too good from drinking bottled/tetrapacked coconut water. As you say, God only knows what they do to it to stay on shelves and such. Also the water from the raw young coconuts tastes much better than the bottled stuff. I also bought Kevita coconut water kefir, which is also quite tasty. Have you tried it? But now I want to make my own.

I always loved sauerkraut, but lately I stopped using it, because of the excessive salt. I had no idea one can have salt less sauerkraut. Esmée, you are a gold mine. I am ordering the water kefir grains today. Thank you!

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28 Aug 2011 16:50 #9040 by borota
borota replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
So I "ordered" the water kefir grains. Interesting trust based system where you don't pay upfront. Now Kefirlady wants to sell me "Adya Clarity", which is some quite expensive mica solution, it seems. Anybody had any experience with it? It almost sounds like a scam to me, it just sounds too good to be true - claimed like a cure for almost all disease.

I am new into this field of raw and almost all of it seems to be energized by young, over-night grown web "authorities", with quite scant of what would be called scientific backing. At least that's how it looks to me. Anybody else here experienced any of the wonders claimed by "Adya Clarity" sellers?

Esmée, if this were true, it would look like they have the magic cure for all parasites, candida and such:
By the end of the video, Angela claims this incredible potion cleansed her of absolutely all her parasites, in just a few weeks. Sounds almost too good to be true.

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31 Aug 2011 23:36 - 31 Aug 2011 23:37 #9072 by Esmée La Fleur
Esmée La Fleur replied the topic: Re: Best retreat specializing in mental illness fasting therapy.
Hi Greg,

Thank you for posting this video. It is very interesting, if true. I guess a person would just have to try it and see how it works for them.

It would be interesting to know how many leafy greens and non-starchy vegetables she has been eating on her raw food diet while struggling with the candida. Dr. Robert Young, author of The pH Miracle, has had tremendous success with eliminating candida, yeast, fungus, microbes, parasites, etc. by having people shift their biochemistry from acid to alkaline through green foods (low-sugar green juices, leafy greens, non-starchy green vegetables), so that they comprise 70% of each meal. Most people on a raw diet, and I suspect Angela is in this category, make two huge mistakes. The first is that they eat too much fat, which interferes with sugar metabolism, allowing un-absorbed sugar to remain in the blood and providing food for the candida and other bad micro-forms (according to Dr Doug Graham) and the second is that they do not eat enough greens which provide the minerals needed to keep the body alkaline (according to Dr. Robert Young). Believe it or not, many "gourmet" raw foodists who eat lots of fancy recipes, consume around 60% of their calories as fat. This is more fat than the average SAD eater!

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